Love All, Hate No One.

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  1. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    How about we all just dial it down long enough to see what these people from all sides of the Christian / Muslim / Jewish debate are saying?

    Please watch, please listen, please let go of the hate & mistrust.

    It's ripping all of us apart, and it just needs to stop!

    Young Christian girl with a beautiful message.

    [video=youtube;3YXINEYdnkY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXINEYdnkY[/video]

    Muslims & Christians Working Together

    [video=youtube;oARJXqQYL00]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARJXqQYL00[/video]

    Christians and Muslims share church.

    [video=youtube;f-4J7hFDK9A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-4J7hFDK9A[/video]

    Muslims and Christians Unite in Wollongong

    [video=youtube;TLoMRDflewU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoMRDflewU[/video]

    It's easy to find hate, and it's easy to exploit hate for personal agendas, but it's much better to focus on everything you see above you.

    So my challenge to everyone here, is to use all of these people from all walks of life as examples on how to treat each other.

    Please watch all of then in their "entirety" as you have time..............Thank You.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we really COEXIST with people who want to behead us, or burn us to death in cages, or blow us and themselves up in an airport? Is it possible?
     
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    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Love all, hate none makes a wounderful bumper sticker or Halmark card but is impossible from my perspective. How does one love Hitler or ISIS?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Why should people who want to behead or burn you make you less able to coexist with those who don't want to behead or burn you?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't. Did something in my post suggest that they would?
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used to question as to why religions believed a God would condone or promote hatred from one person to another. I never understood the logic of God having a chosen people. After stepping out of religion, I see just how ridiculous it can be. In general, I think most religions do get along. It always seems to come back to the fundamentalist who adhere to the ugly aspects of their religions that separate the religions.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention people who want to waterboard us, kill us with unmanned drones, drop bunker busters, and napalm, and cluster bombs.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that evil is always attributed to the other side by both sides.
     
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    They DO want to behead or burn you....to prove it, just try walking into ISIS territory, or AQ territory, or Taliban territory, and start building a new church....see how long your head stays on your body, yeardmeat. And get in a spirited debate with an ISIS member: you draw a cartoon of Mohammad to show them that you dislike Mohammad, and you'll get the same result....just ask Pamela Gellar, they tried to kill her, they had another companion, and even a guy in Boston plotted to kill her (she had CARTOONS drawn is all.)

    "The women marked for death by Islamic fatwa face threats with fear, courage". http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/2...mic-fatwa-face-threats-with-fear-courage.html

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    Yes, Obama is disgusting....he refuses to take on Islam ideologically - his solution is to bomb, bomb, and bomb more.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Correct. Yes, the Nazis said the same about us....so I guess we shouldn't have bothered fighting them because they thought that we were as bad as we thought they were, right?

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    We can all agree that if they were actually from an all-knowing entity (god) that they would not have "ugly aspects" to begin with.
     
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    You've got to be kidding - Mohammad taught that Churches should not be built or repaired under Sharia Law! Will you say that Mohammad was immoral for teaching that?
     
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    We can all be as tolerant as we are allowed to be. The pertinent question is how tolerant our enemies will permit us to be.

    ISIS desperately wants to engage the US in a ground war in the ME. Should we oblige them? I say no. There is no interest there we need to protect, nor any problem that we didn't have a hand in creating.

    We should follow our interests. Limit immigration from Islamic countries until the crisis passes. Muslim immigrants who are already here should be treated with respect.
     
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    Probably not since we can't stop droning them even though we have no meaningful interest in the region other than Wall Street interests.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    None of these people in any of these video's want to behead you...

    1.7 billion Muslims do not want to behead you.....

    Try again.......
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Remember what Henry Ford said....?

    If you think you can, or if you think you can't..............your right.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, and I am no longer religious at all myself, but I see signs of hope everywhere, and all of these groups that most people think hate each other, get along much more than they think.

    It's not all bleak, and it's not all hopeless.
     
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    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    The video speaks for itself dude, and as much as it offends your sensibilities, it happened, just as every other act of love & togetherness have happened that you absolutely refuse to see.

    I'll keep my hopeless fight for all people to come together while you keep wanting all of us to be torn apart because you can't get your head out of all of these religious text's.

    What I would like for you to share with all of us is what happened in your life that made you hate all of the religious texts so much.

    Not believing in God is one thing, but you are absolutely obsessed with the scriptures from all of these books, and I'd love to know why, and what the paradigm shift was that took place in your life that has made you this way.
     
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    That's only the American way.
     
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    That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that both sides claim the other is evil. But nice bit of silliness.
     
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    How can a reasonable person tell the difference?

    As analogy: If you have a bowl of red jellybeans, and 1% of them explode when you bite them, would you eat any of them?

    Don't misunderstand, I'm all about tolerance and diversity. This is a puzzle, as demonstrated by the jelly bean analogy above, that we must figure out. The jelly beans that do not explode NEED to be identified somehow, so the rest can be culled from the candy dish. Until then, I am better off to presume every jelly bean wants to kill me.
     
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    Religions are terrible manmade hate machines in the first place....they automatically lead to distrust and dislike of everyone of a different version. It is rather funny to call on God to fix what he is purposefully doing. For those who already reject religion, it is impossible to love it when it kills people because it exists.
     
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    I think the OP is referring to the religious perspective, not the political one. Thats why its on the religion and philosophy forum.

    It would make the issue much clearer if everyone admitted that they don't fear or hate muslims because they aren't christians. That in fact the fear and hate have nothing to do with their christianity and run contradictory to it, however inconvenient that may be.
     
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    TBryant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My reason for being agnostic is completely personal, If there is a god it just cannot be as limited as any human definition. So why bother to much with what people do or say about a misrepresentation?

    I think if a christian uses the bible for self examination it works fine. Its only when its applied to others or the world in general that it turns into garbage.
     
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    I agree. I always thought religion would be worth the mention if it's brighter virtues were faithfully followed by it's base. But at the moment it is no different from politics- an ideological shroud people cover themselves in for personal legitmacy.
     
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    I don't think that was the intention, honestly. I think most religions have become man-made hate machines because they are often hijacked by people who have ceased to listen to themselves and each other, and listen to people who want to use and manipulate them. More so, ironically, religions shouldn't be about blind faith and unquestioningly following, but the courageous pursuit of personal, spiritual truths, no matter the obstacle. I think it is probably most respectabl, honorable thing a person can do if they sincerely devote themselves to doing it. But all religious people are charlatans, pretty much. They don't really seek to commit to that path, they just want the adoration, respect, or leverage that affiliating themselves with it can give them.
     

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