Lying Gasbag Alec Baldwin Claims Gun Fired Itself.

Don't think he did it on purpose..................but he was totally reckless. This interview make s him look foolish. He should have kept t his mouth shut.

 

Why do you think Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer?

 

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...

 

absolutely !!!

 

Do you feel that being educated on the subject is a bad thing?

We have the ignorant Democrat leaders trying to pass legislation and they don't know a breach from a muzzle.

 

love these guys.... look at those tears. Remind me of fake tears of Jussie Smollette.

Remember, it's guns not the humans which kill... guns have a life of their own. Baldwin will probably be used as propaganda of gun grabbers 'see, guns just kill on their own'

as far Jussie, here's guy who wants racism so he can profit from it:

 

I don't think its a bad thing, but I don't see someone as stupid or weak if they choose not to be educated about guns. And I would agree that leaders making decisions about guns should understand them.

 

I don't see anyone is stupid or weak either but if they're ignorant they need to keep their hands off them or seek basic instruction.
Far too many people who are essentially completely ignorant on the topic tend to have very strong opinions about it.

 

Simply because I don't know the mechanics of something doesn't mean I shouldn't have opinions about them. Too often, here at PF, I'm told I should shut up because I don't know as much about a topic as someone else. We wouldn't have much of a discussion forum if only 'expert' opinions were offered. I can have my views of guns without understanding how they work.

 

Bullshit

If a live round got into the gun by mistake there is no way that whoever handled the gun could have prevented this accident. Even if they had cleared the chamber they would have simply thought the live cartridge was a dummy.

Baldwin WAS unsafe BUT it wouldn't have made any difference if he had acted properly, Whoever mixed live ammunition with the fake made this accident inevitable and unavoidable.

All you Trumpers are down on Baldwin because he made Trump look like the silly ass he is. It's petty beyond belief especially when someone has died.

 

I don't recall ever having told you to shut up.

But being informed on a topic is helpful.

 

You just proved the person that you were responding to point. What a ridiculous statement. It is imo on par with that one Democrat Senator who claimed that an island was floating.

BTW, did you know that the Sandy Hook shooter (I refuse to say his name) HAD taken a safety training course already? A safety training course is NOT going to stop a school shooting, nor will it stop anyone intent on committing a crime with a gun in hand.

I have no problem requiring a gun safety training course. Once. No more need be done. Gun safety is actually extremely easy. In fact there is only 3 steps to it.

1. Keep finger off trigger until the moment you want to fire.
2. NEVER point it at someone unless you are in imminent danger of life and limb.
3. And ALWAYS treat the gun as if it is loaded even when you believe it is not.

That is it. It is that simple. The only real difficult part is knowing when you can shoot someone in self defense (which can actually change from State to State). That part is what takes up most of the safety training courses. Although I do know that the safety training course were I live also requires you to be able to hit a target. I don't know about others so can't say on those. But I'd agree to make that a part of the training also if that is not the case. I would also demand an exemption for those that can immediately demonstrate that they already know what is required.

As far as guns and ammunition being stored in "certain responsible ways" I'm guessing that you mean keep them stored in safes/lockboxes in separate rooms (a common anti-gunner demand). That is the kind of thing that exemplifies how idiotic the anti-gun side can be in regards to guns. Tell me, what is the purpose of that? Seriously? What is the purpose of it? If they're stored in a safe in one room together then there is no difference between storing them in safes/lockboxes in separate rooms. And a gun without bullets is nothing more than a club. And what are you going to do when bad guys are between you and the bullets or guns that are in a different room? Ask the criminal "Can you please wait? I have to get my bullets in the other room there.......". Idiocy.

 

Not necessarily. He is pointing out the only mitigating factor. There should NOT have been any live ammunition on the set. The fact that there WAS live ammunition AND the gun could chamber it made this accident unavoidable if not inevitable.

The gun also apparently had a hair trigger.

All in all Baldwin as a producer will probably have to pay quite a sum for allowing live ammo close by. His insurance will save him but he will never get it again so his career as a producer is over and I think his acting appearances will be extremely straitened after this

 

One should at least be informed of the subject that they choose to talk about on a forum, or anywhere else for that matter. They don't need to be experts. But at least know enough to not look like fools. As the old saying goes.... "It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." I can't count the number of times that I've heard or seen anti-gunners have spouted off as if they know what they are talking about. Most don't even know that this:

Ruger Mini 14 Ranch 223 / 5.56 Semi Automatic Rifle w/ Scope


Has the same firepower and capability as this: AR15


And I can't count how many times I've seen Democrat Congress critters put their finger on the triggers or point them at people when showing how scary guns look to their believers.

 

Not exactly no. His description of what happened is that he released the hammer likely just before it reached full **** and the gun went off. Note this was a fairly common trick used by old west gun fighters looking for an edge in close up gunfights. Most gun fights occurred at distances of less than 20 feet. Not infrequently across a card table with a whiskey bottle and a few empty glasses on it. The only question now is did he know of that possibility when he released the hammer. It's the difference between felony murder and negligent homicide.

 

I heard that version this morning for the first time. He said he was told to c0ck the gun and was in the process of cocking when he accidently released the hammer.

It makes little difference whether he knew it would fire that way or not. He was handling a dangerous weapon. At the point it was cocked, all it would have taken was to pull the trigger. He failed to check whether it was loaded before he started playing with it. He is trying to blame it on the armorer by claiming the actor should not have to check whether it was loaded and there should have been no live rounds on the set.

He was the producer and responsible for everything on that set. Other people on the set were using the weapons for target practice so it should have been evident to him that there were live rounds on the set.

He screwed up on several counts. Had any of those events not taken place, no one would have died.

 

One of the worst things our society has done to itself is the rush to judgement, eager to condemn on the basis of fragments of information. We have mobs surrounding courthouses demanding convictions, like old western movies. Let's let (and require) that the authorities involved do their job right.

This is just speculation, not judgement. With single actions, one of the things that can happen is that if you are holding the trigger back on an uncocked gun and the hammer gets pulled back even partway and released, it can fire. If they were using the gun I think they were (an Oberti replica, and I have one) that could not happen unless the full cocked hammer position was reached. Then too, assuming that the weapon had not been modified for show purposes such as being able to "fan" it.
Lots of ifs.

 

He is a producer and actor. He hired cheap, inexperienced people to handle the props. There are at least two people who had already quit the show over previous accidental discharges of live a.munition. the fact that the filming was not stopped and everything gone through with a fine tooth comb including practices and proceedures, ammo sorting and everything else constitutes proof if negligence.

 

'Know your enemy'. If someone refuses to learn anything about an object, how can their hatred be so intense?

A dear family member is about as anti-gun as one could get, yet was willing to actually fire one at a gun range. They were astounded that a semi-automatic required the actual pull on the trigger to fire. They thought it did it all by itself.... She's still an anti-gunner, but at least now she understands a bit about it.

 

Are you kidding? Have you seen the media? They wouldn't print it if it wasn't true. You must not question the media. You must dutifully obey the media. It is right to give the media thanks and praise.

 

Does anyone think a cop would get away with what Baldwin did without a murder charge?

 

Depends. Did the cop shoot a White or a black?

 

Guns don’t fire themselves, sorry. Just like vehicles don’t drive through parades on their own. But if you watched the MSM, you’d think guns shoot them selves and cars that aren’t autonomous, drive themselves all the time.

 

Yup. Scroll to 4:00...



This guy wants to make firearm policy.

 

Sadly for Halyna Hutchins, her boss Alec Baldwin had the one magical gun that did fire itself. According to Baldwin...