Majority rights

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by Polydectes, Apr 6, 2022.

  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    What you missed is that now the burger flipper can support himself in an apartment rather than living on the street.

    The objective here wasn't to allow this individual to buy expensive hamburgers.
     
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    You don't understand supply and demand in relation to prices. When you add money to a system the price of everything goes up- even apartment rent. That is first day economics class.

    You aren't taking from the rich. The rich don't eat hamburgers, the rich eat at Olive Garden. You are taking from the poor slob that eats hamburgers- the same poor slob that flips them. Rich people don't want minimum wage service, they can afford better.
     
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    Rich people don't eat at Olive Garden.

    The increase in minimum wage does not cause all other prices to rise by the same amount. After all, minimum wage earners are a small fraction of the labor force. And, the labor force is only a fraction of the economy.

    Also, the additional wages get spent, because people in that bracket can't save. So, the result is an addition to the economy. And, it means less is required to support minimum wage workers when their wages are below the cost of living.
     
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    You do not understand. The minimum wage earners tend to purchase products made or services rendered produced by other minimum wage earners. This is how come people that can afford to eat Olive Garden instead of Burger King don't shop at Wallmart for Chinese slave labor products. They can afford better.

    Edit, Olive Garden, should I have used Applebee's as an example? I needed a franchise and Olive Garden was the most expensive to come to mind.
     
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    I don't agree with your idea of eating at restaurants or ordering take-out every night.

    The point is more that anyone trying to live on minimum wage is probably getting government support.

    And, any increase in minimum wage above that will be added to the economy.
     
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    You are filling a swimming pool by taking buckets of water out of the deep end and trying to pour it into the shallow end. Does not work.
     
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    The addition to an individual's wage is like the bucket. When added to the pool, our full economy, it doesn't cause a rise anywhere near the magnitude of the individual's increased wage.

    Labor has been losing for a long time. We see constant Republican assault on labor, which is repeatedly supported by our Republican Supreme Court.

    Non-agricultural wages are a shrinking share of our economy. Adding some amount to the lowest legal wage is not going to change our economy in a significant way.


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    To be fair a minority overturned the will of the majority by overturning Roe vs Wade. Both side like to impose their will on the other regardless of whether or not they are in the minority or majority. Each side works to have an oversized footprint in society and are willing to do just about anything to achieve it.
     
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    No one nows what the majority thinks about abortion. When the voters in each state finish deciding, THEN we will know.
     
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    We have decades of information on what people think about abortion.

    We know what people of specific religious orientations think of it.

    The idea that we need to wait for some future election is ridiculous.

    Not only do we already have serious information on this issue, but voters in some upcoming election are NOT all going to be faced with an issue on abortion AT ALL, let alone the same issue.
     

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