Many Texas Schools Teach Creationism

Hey its either that or heroine in order to keep humans servile Now we really have to do something about the retarded thinkers of the early Bronze age.

I would ,arrest the teachers of this discredited dross ,for Child abuse.

 

Not to sure about Home teaching by religious nutty Parents ,it leads to things like this http://abcnews.go.com/US/twenty-children-died-newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/story?id=17973836 yep dead kiddies everywhere.

Funny how God nuttery , and mass murder always end up together?

The coming Revolution has a bit of work ahead of it.

 

I learned Greek mythology in a public school. Should that school's funding be cut?

There's a big difference between teaching something and indoctrinating.

 

Teach kids about how religions, atheism and secularism compare... or leave it out altogether.

Religion surely isn't science.

 

But they didn't teach thunder was Zeus. The difference is that they were teaching about it. If you teach eyeballs were designed and did not evolve you are lying to students if favor of religion. If you say for many years people believed that the earth was created in 6 days as it is now but science showed that is not true I don't see a problem.

 

Why the hell not? American schools are a joke anyway. Hell, you can't even keep score any more in some sports, can't give a failing kid an 'F,' and we will graduate woefully under-educated students who can't even write a complete sentence.

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I agree. Of course, science can be religion.

 

Creation isn't science and intelligent design has been ruled, in a court of law, as pseudo-science.

 

It's a religious teaching. It is only a belief with religious confirmation. There are no scientific findings. In regular schools kids are taught things from a scientific denominator. It has never been based on a religious belief. This of course is integrating religion and state which is unconstitutional. Texas has really lost it here lately. If they want to teach creationism, do it at your local church where they have that particular religious belief. Why do we need a science class if they are going to teach religion in schools? This is the hard core cult religious right trying to take over the school system. It has to get out of the schools if we are to honor the constitution.

 

Tru dat. Teaching Creation in a Science class, as a valid alternative to ToE is wrong for two reasons: First, it's runs contrary to the Establishment Cause and is therefore, unconstitutional. Second, neither Creation or Intelligent Desing is Science...it's religious dogma and has no place in a Science class.

 

Intelligent design was just slipped in there to take the place of Creationism the way I see it. Both need to be out of the schools. This is typical southern right wing cult religion trying to sneak its way into our schools.

 

If you really want to know the truth behind Intelligent Design is, google "cdesign proponentsists" And then for another fun read, google "the Wedge Document".

So much for the "science" of creation.

 

Was Greek mythology taught as fact? No.

Is creationism taught as fact? Yes.

Think before you post.

 

Dangerous and stupid... That pretty much sums up all forms of monotheism and their adherents.

 

The Wedge Document really tries to flush real science down the toilet from what I read. The intended goal from this document suggests to me, a permeating religious push into the schools of those with their own ideas about science, and are integrating their own religious beliefs into the mix, while ridding the schools of traditional science teachings. Like I said; (*)(*)(*) are we doing to our school system? Thanks again for the link.

 

Well if California schools can teach Islam, I don't know why Texas schools can't teach creationism. Where do we get this 6,000 years? I was never taught that in church or Bible school when I was a kid.


Islam studies required in California district
www.wnd.com/2002/01/12325 Cached
In the wake of Sept. 11, an increasing number of California public school students must attend an intensive three-week course on Islam, reports ASSIST News Service ...

 

There's no need to do something like that, just makes sure they're doing what they're supposed to do.

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That makes up people who don't follow the rules. Ignoring the standards the state sets is a very bad precedent.

 

Politics, Science and Religion should never mix. It is not like oil and water, it is like sodium and water.

 

Can it not be said that creationism is another belief of how life started on this planet but is not backed up with facts? I mean there is only two kinds of beliefs. Is there something wrong in explaining both? They don't have to try to go into great detail with it.

 

Religion generally supercedes the law for its most faithful followers, I've noticed. It's all part of believing in absolute truths and having that martyr mentality of doing what is "right" at all costs.

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It becomes an issue when teachers become preachers.

 

Creationism is not science. It should not be taught as science or anything remotely close to that.

Creationism relies on fallacies and lies to make an argument.

There are two people that oppose evolution:
1. People who are ignorant of evolution
2. People who lie about evolution

I am yet to encounter a person who falls outside of that.

 

Funny, earlier when I pointed out that California was teaching Islam, no one complained. Why is that?

 

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So, CA goes off the rails, & now TX should be allowed to do the same? This is logic @ the level of Kindergarteners - Well, he hit me first!

No, it doesn't work like that. If someone wants to challenge the CA curriculum on teaching Islam, they have to have standing there in CA. Usually, be a parent of a child directly affected, have residence in the local SD, bring suit individually or in a class action, & so on.

The same is true of TX - if someone wants to challenge the partisan Torah & Bible studies in the TX public schools, they have to have standing in TX. TX & CA, as large states with large school-age populations, have too much influence over textbook publishers as it is - no one wants to shut themselves out of a large market, & so the reactionary factions in TX would pore over textbooks line by line, & object strenuously to anything that failed to pass their ideological litmus tests (see the Gabblers, late of TX textbook review fame. I believe they left their legacy, an index of textbooks reviewed & their concerns with specific treatments of topics, with their papers to an organization continuing their review Crusade.)

Meanwhile, our children do poorly in academic subjects, compared to their First-World peers. Not to worry, though - it is TX. Lots of the girls will wind up pregnant before they graduate HS - & heck, the Gov is actually cutting Medicare, I believe, to save the state a whole gob of money. So, lots of them pregnant bad girls will die or suffer traumatic consequences in labor, not get simple pre-natal care, birth underweight, premature, prone to folic acid syndrome babies, or fetal alcohol. Hell, pregnancy in TX is like playing bingo down to th' county fair - or maybe like "a box o' choc'lates" - ya just neber know what-all's gonna happen nor whut yu'll get. Whatever it is, it probably won't be justice. & the boys - well, the cream can go on to college, or to the military (that's cutting back, though), or roustabouts in fracking for oil/nat gas. 'Course, the potential exposures to carcinogens & highly reactive chem & such are pretty fierce, but it's not like roustabouts cost much to replace 'n' train, is it?

&it's not like TX is gonna burden any God-fearing corporate with them lilly-livered rules & regs, is it? Why hell, just a bit ago th' Good Lord saw fit to Rapture off a big ol' chunk o' West, TX. & you think the TX Lege is gonna insist that fertilizer plants 'n' such with tons of highly reactive chemicals sitting around, just a waitin' fer God's call to glory, are gonna re-quire those companies have adequate liability insurance? Well, hell no! TX is a born-agin state, says so right on the IOU's they're a handing out to the survivors - yep, big ol' public funeral & all for them brave first responders, Who of course had no idea that they were rushing to ground zero of a small nuke - Wouldn't do to worry the schoolchildren @ the school & the old folk down to the nursing home, nor the people who lived in apartments; all within blast range. Nah, nah, needless worryin', & you know that TX is a bidness-friendly state 'n' all ...

Yah, I hear that the new logo for the TX Dept. of Commerce will be Slim Pickins a-ridin' that ol' nuke down on them Commies from Dr. Strangelove, a whoopin' 'n' a hollerin' & a flappin' his Stetson in fine ol' style! Take that, ya Commie-symps!

 

Notice what I highlighted was the only thing you said about California teaching Islam. Then you spent the rest of the page condemning Texas.

 

You know when I was growing up, having children out of wedlock wasn't a problem. Not until Liberals saw nothing wrong in living together when not married. When children listened to their parents and teachers. But Liberals also took away any kind of discipline from parents and teachers. Now a parent can go to jail for spanking their child. A teacher is no longer permitted to touch a child and schools have gotten so bad with discipline, teachers can no longer teach. We have broken up the family unit so that many kids no longer have a father to guide a child's life.But it seems like the only thing Liberals worry about is if religion is mentioned in school.

 

Where they teaching Islam as fact?

Yes or no.