THE RACIST Margaret Sanger- She was about way more than birth control. Sanger, who really was she? Pro-aborts hold her up to be this pillar of virtue to be respected, honored, admired and loved. If you read her books and articles however I think this shows a completely different side of Sanger, nothing that would warrant anyones respect. I believe she was A very deceptive woman and carefully chose her words and agenda. I have read some post on here where people have defended her racist remarks because they say society at the time was racist and that what she said was not that outrageous. They seem to defend her no matter what. I can only imagine if she were alive today and said the things she did, what would happen. We have celebrities that have make statements nothing like she did and their careers have been ruined over them. Who comes to mind...Laura Schlessinger, Don Imus, Mel Gibson, Michael Richard/Kramer etc.... They were all dragged across the coals for their comments and forced to apologize even though they might have been within the right in saying what they said. I think her statements prove she was a racist. She used many words to describe people "bad stock", "weeds" etc. Who was she talking about? She was more than racist she hated the poor, the feeble, mentally handicapped .I am going to include them in the racist area of discussion. She surrounded herself with racists and same thinking people both on a professional and personal level. I am going to number the quotes and points to make for easier commenting. That might make it easier to stay on the same page. Just use the number when making a reference to the point. 1. One of Sanger's greatest influences, sexologist/eugenicist Dr. Havelock Ellis (with whom she had an affair, leading to her divorce from her first husband), urged mandatory sterilization of the poor as a prerequisite to receiving any public aid. The Problem of Race Regeneration, by Havelock Ellis, p. 65, in Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society, p. 18. Ellis believed that any sex was acceptable, as long as it hurt no one. The Sage of Sex, A Life of Havelock Ellis, by Arthur Calder-Marshall, p. 88 2. Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932 3. "The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) 4. The goal of eugenicists is "to prevent the multiplication of bad stocks," wrote Dr. Ernst Rudin in the April 1933 Birth Control Review (of which Sanger was editor). Another article exhorted Americans to "restrict the propagation of those physically, mentally and socially inadequate." 5. "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."(*)Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race(*)(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923) 6.We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members. Margaret Sangers December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts 7. "To give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation [concentration camps] or sterilization".....Margaret Sanger in April 1932 ("A Plan For Peace", Birth Control Review) 8. Sanger said, Keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924. Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring. Sanger, A Plan For Peace, Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 106 9. Sanger said, It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them. Herein lies the key of civilization. For upon the foundation of an enlightened and voluntary motherhood shall a future civilization emerge. Sanger, What Every Boy and Girl Should Know, 1915, p. 140 10.Margaret Sanger appointed Lothrop Stoddard as a board member of the Birth Control League (the forerunner of Planned Parenthood). What did Stoddard think about Nazi eugenics? Author Stefan Kuhl writes: "When the Nazis came to power, argued Stoddard, they started to increase "both the size and the quality of the population." They coupled initiatives designed to encourage "sound" citizens to reproduce with a "drastic curb of the defective elements." Stoddard personally witnessed how the Nazis were "weeding out the worst strains in the Germanic stock in a scientific and truly humanitarian way." Lothrop Stoddard met personally with Adolf Hitler. William L. Shirer, an American colleague who had been in Germany since 1934, complained that the Reich minister for propaganda [Joseph Goebbels] gave special preference to Stoddard because his writings on racial subject were "featured in Nazi school textbooks." Berlin Diary: The Journal of a Foreign Correspondent, William L. Shire (New York: Alfred Knopf, 1941):257 11. Sanger admitted her entire life's purpose was to promote birth control. An Autobiography, p. 194 Additional quotes coming.
COMMENTS ON MARGARET SANGER points 1. No wonder she did not like the marriage bed....she had an affair on her husband. She wanted MANDATORY STERILIZATION..... of the poor or they would not get public aid. Should we do this today? 2. So couples should be forced to apply to have a child......... Should we do this today? 3. The marriage bed...degenerating? 4.What defines....bad stock? This man she allowed to write in her Birth Control Review...which she was the editor. 5. This one just totally blows me away. She thinks it is merciful to kill an infant child. 6. She does not want word out that she wants the Negro population exterminated....wow. And of course black ministers can keep them in line should they find out. 7. Sanger wants to give people the choice...sterilization or segregated concentration camps. So much for freedom and liberty in America. 8. Closed immigration to those she deems inferior. Wow and today how would that idea fly? LOL And whats wrong with prostitutes Margaret? 9. If you are poor...you are screwed in Sangers eyes...you do not have the right to live...or to have children. 10. Sangers board member....who said what Hitler did was done in a humanitarian way. 11. Sangers motives and goals....? Were they all about birth control? I dont think so. She might have said what she did but her actions and words did not reflect it. She might have said that she was against abortion....but I dont for one minute believe her....her work was all connected and it was about preying on people you do not think worthy to live.
And nobody that loves and defends Sanger will make comment on her positions? This thread has already served its purpose.
You need to calm down, churchmouse, and stop all this shouting. Have you actually read Sanger's book, or is all this information culled from pro life websites? Let's see your sources.
I posted links and sources and in most cases page numbers. What do you want me to do….send each of Sangers books to you? Come on. Comment on the quotes. And if you have any question…GOOGLE THE NAMES AND READ ABOUT IT AGAIN. I am not going to cut and paste….pages and pages before and after each quote. It is what it is……she said them…and I gave the source. Ok I will post an entire paper…..let me go get one.
A Plan for Peace by MARGARET SANGER First, put into action President Wilson's fourteen points, upon which terms Germany and Austria surrendered to the Allies in 1918. Second, have Congress set up a special department for the study of population problems and appoint a Parliament of Population, the directors representing the various branches of science: this body to direct and control the population through birth rates and immigration, and to direct its distribution over the country according to national needs consistent with taste, fitness and interest of individuals. The main objects of the Population Congress would be: a. to raise the level and increase the general intelligence of population. b. to increase the population slowly by keeping the birth rate at its present level of fifteen per thousand, decreasing the death rate below its present mark of 11 per thousand. c. to keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924. d. to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring. e. to insure the country against future burdens of maintenance for numerous offspring as may be born of feebleminded parents, by pensioning all persons with transmissible disease who voluntarily consent to sterilization. f. to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization. g. to apportion farm lands and homesteads for these segregated persons where they would be taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives. The first step would thus be to control the intake and output of morons, mental defectives, epileptics. The second step would be to take an inventory of the secondary group such as illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends; classify them in special departments under government medical protection, and segregate them on farms and open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development of moral conduct. Having corralled this enormous part of our population and placed it on a basis of health instead of punishment, it is safe to say that fifteen or twenty millions of our population would then be organized into soldiers of defense---defending the unborn against their own disabilities. The third step would be to give special attention to the mothers' health, to see that women who are suffering from tuberculosis, heart or kidney disease, toxic goitre, gonorrhea, or any disease where the condition of pregnancy disturbs their health are placed under public health nurses to instruct them in practical, scientific methods of contraception in order to safeguard their lives---thus reducing maternal mortality. The above steps may seem to place emphasis on a health program instead of on tariffs, moratoriums and debts, but I believe that national health is the first essential factor in any program for universal peace. With the future citizen safeguarded from hereditary taints, with five million mental and moral degenerates segregated, with ten million women and ten million children receiving adequate care, we could then turn our attention to the basic needs for international peace. There would then be a definite effort to make population increase slowly and at a specified rate, in order to accommodate and adjust increasing numbers to the best social and economic system. In the meantime we should organize and join an International League of Low Birth Rate Nations to secure and maintain World Peace.
She also spoke at a Klan rally. A lot of people don't know that. There's your hero, liberals. Staying true to your Democratic ideals. The same party that defended slavery. I told you slavery and abortion have a lot in common.
Tsk, tsk...more lies. Sanger gave a lecture on birth control to the women's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan.
Why would she speak to such a group? Why give even the appearance of sanctioning the ideology and activities of a racist organization?
I can only guess that her commitment to reproductive freedom for all women outweighed any fear of the appearance a particular audience may have given.
http://www.spectacle.org/997/richmond.html (A Plan for Peace, Margaret Sanger) was published in Birth Control Review (April 1932, pp. 107-10 http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/ms_apwp.html http://roaringrepublican.com/blog/2010/08/21/text-of-a-plan-for-peace-by-margaret-sanger/
Is that all ya got? LOL She felt kind towards these women whose husbands killed blacks .? Oh thats right .she was a racist so of course she would want them to have birth control. LOL I wonder if she also wore a hood?
I have listed eleven points and quotes .and Cady you won't touch ONE Why? All the other threads are full of left wing radical views defending Sanger ..and when I document what she was all about and base it and the connections to Hitler NONE OF YA CAN COMMENT.
Exactly, yes. There's only so many times I can be bothered to point out the fallacies of these claims.
ARe you denying Sanger wrote that article? ARe you denying that the quotes are not heres? If your are you have not proved it. What you have proved is that you run from the truth .in fact you don't care about the truth only about the manufactures truth you make up in YOUR OWN MIND. Show me proof that Sanger did not write that article I posted.
You know I knew this would happen. LOL Seriously I was talking to someone on here and we laughed that this would happen. That all the big mouthed pro-aborts would not be able to discuss this because it smacks the truth right in their faces. That article Sanger wrote it is history. She said what she did and you guys still are so enthralled with her that you can't see it as evil and racist. The fact you can't debate the merits and the fact .that you obviously can't defend her says a lot .not about me .about you. LOL Go run Grannie run your good at it. And hey if it takes putting me on ignore .gals DO IT. But we all know the reason why and the thing is you also know why . Shhhhhh now look the other way.
Not One Pro-abort Will Touch These Quotes to Defend Sanger . And They As We See Cant Provide One Iota Of Information That Dubunks Them All As Lies.
"The Centers for Disease Control, in 2005, reported the seven leading causes of death in the black community are heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide and chronic lower respiratory diseases but abortion kills more than these seven combined." Dr. Alveda King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., said in August 2007, that abortionists plant their killing centers in minority neighborhoods and prey upon women with no hope. The great irony is that abortion has done what the Klan only dreamed of. The Rev. Childress bluntly calls the situation black genocide. In, We Must Breed a Race of Thoroughbreds, Margaret Sanger wrote Our civilization has bred, is breeding and perpetuating consistently increasing number of defectives, delinquents and dependents. She said birth control clinics should be established to breed out of the race the scourges of transmissible disease, mental defects, poverty, lawlessness and crime since these classes would be decreasing in number instead of breeding like weeds. In advising how to organize The Negro Project, she wrote Clarence Gamble, heir of Proctor and Gamble and also a member of the Eugenics Society, We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negroes is through a religious appeal. We dont want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members. Planned Parenthood and the American Eugenics Society had a close association for years and shared the same building in New York. After World War II, when the horrible eugenics implications of the Holocaust became known, Planned Parenthood has tried to distance itself from the previous eugenic connections and tries to deny the eugenic and racial beliefs of its founder. If this is true why are 78 percent of Planned Parenthood Clinics located in areas most accessible to minorities? Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., quoting Victor Hugo, said, If a soul is left in darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sins, but he who caused the darkness. Again Dr. King on his last Sunday sermon before his assassination in 1968 said, There comes a time when one must take the position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right. http://www.mlive.com/opinion/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/01/viewpoint_the_trojan_horse_in.html
Because she wanted the black population exterminated so where best to go do it at a KKK. Her stuff is so blatantly racist its not even funny.
As she needs no defense. However, given your well-documented record of lying about Sanger ... http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...arning-graphic-material-8.html#post1060883113 ... you do need a defense. You never responded to that debunking of your long list of vile lies about Sanger. Instead, you cut and run, and then created this new thread using the same list of lies. Given how many times you've been corrected, you can't plead ignorance any longer. You, Churchmouse, are shamelessly and deliberately lying about Sanger and Planned Parenthood, and for that your deserve the scorn of all decent people of any political persuasion. Now me, I don't do the relative morality thing like Churchmouse does. I'm an absolute morality guy, and I won't lie for a cause. If a cause requires lying to support it, then the cause is immoral. Naturally, Churchmouse's cause requires major lying to support it.
