Mask Denier Tx. Rep. Louie Gohmert tests positive for Covid

You are wrong. Wearing a mask works the same no matter where you are. At home you will cut the odds of infecting a family member significantly, especially if pre or asymptotic by wearing a mask.

LOL. Now we are supposed to believe masks are sentient and decide how effective they are at trapping droplets and aerosols based on if they are home or away.

At home you could drop the chance of infecting a family member from 17% to 3.5% by wearing a mask. Outside the home you would be cutting the chances from 2.5% down to 0.5%. Seems like a small sacrifice for those you love most.

You are the one denying scientific facts here. My premise is based on research. Yours (as usual) is not. Quote a statement I’ve made on masks that isn’t supported by research. And stop being selfish and wear a f***ing mask like your sig line says. You must hate your family.

 

It's a reference to many studies. I have tons of them. I just included a couple randomly.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818
https://www.researchgate.net/public...d_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_June_15_2020
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/15/E410
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf

WTF? "Only" 78% ??????

What did you think it would be? If it were 100% you wouldn't need to social distance, wash hand, not touch your face, ... or do any of the other things recommended.

God, you're desperate!

 

ALERT!

What to do, WHAT TO DO? I feel very sorry for the little children during this insane time, I wonder how the the Karen's of the world will banish these lil Tikes and what HELL awaits them *Shudders*!!!

 

Probability is cumulative so your percentages are meaningless.

Clearly you did not understand my example of tossing a coin so I will expand: Assume that heads means you have become infected. Tossing a coin once gives you 50% probability of becoming infected. Tossing a coin twice gives you 75% probability of becoming infected, Tossing a coin three times gives you 87.5% probability of becoming infected and so on and so on approaching 100% with additional tosses. Each toss of the coin is analogous to each close contact with a household member. Hence it is pointless to wear a mask when in your home as probability of infection approaches 100% whether you are wearing a mask or not.

 

BUT WOW are you off on a rant, this COVID thing has really brought out the manic is many people!!! All exaggeration and hyperbolism aside, you do what you believe will get you thru this flu, but keep in mind you have yet to post the first virus/flu to be cured in mans history on earth.. With that said hide until old age and natural cause removes you from the equation or man up and upgrade that immune system evolution provided you with and get on with those VERY precious final year we all have left..

 

Who's lives? That's weird question. I'm worried about lives being lost. I do not discriminate. Obviously I don't want my family to get infected, first of all. And it's less likely they will if we end this pandemic soon. Which the right seems to be obsessed with making it last as long as they can.

Oh God! Your nonsense is unbelievable.

How in the world could anybody not agree that ANY lives saved is a good thing. And not understand that the less people infected, the less chances they die, the less people will have to deal with health issues all their lives, and the better chance we have of reopening the economy and less people suffering the consequences of the financial effects on their lives.

You have no idea how your insistence on bringing all these puny strawman arguments makes you look desperate to insert political bias into a health emergency that we should all be trying to get out of.

 

WOW, you seriously need a refresher on comprehension! No one said it was illegal, it simply compensation for Medical Facilities dealing with COVID stricken patients set aside in the CARES ACT..

Hyperbolism IMHO is the leading symptoms associated with this flu LMFAO

 

In that case, tell them for me that they are f...ing idiots!! And my highest praises for Republicans in your town.

 

It's scientific fact, not opinion. You cannot state your opinion and trump science!!

If a cloth mask, or one of those surgical types masks CANNOT filter out the virus, then no matter how much you wish otherwise, it still will NOT filter out the virus.

 

Is it because you want 100% of immigrants kept out. Does that mean you want 100% of Americans infected with a potentially deadly disease?

And, the worst part is that, as I write this, I'm realizing I'm not sure your answer will be "no"

 

You are a science denier. Research clearly shows the probability of infecting someone you live with is about 17%. I’m uninterested in your coins.

 

It will not filter out 100% of the virus. That is a fact.

 

Wrong! If you live with somebody who is known to be infected it protects you only marginally. And if you live with somebody you don't know is infected, the chances that you will actually consistently wear a mask all day are close to zero... The combination of those two factors makes your assertion.... what was that word again?...oh yeah, ridiculous.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10....db352f27bdafb97dad23358f&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

Maybe one day you'll find out how references make what you say more interesting than just throwing in ... whatever numbers you feel will help you (a.k.a. cherry-picking)

 

BY WHO? About all I read is this sight and the all the hyperbolic entries of overly frightened, sure I consider it my morning comic relief and green tea time. Then I'm off without a care in the world like I have all my live and continue my r/l entertainment as dumbass's walk the street with mask over beard, no goggles taking dollars and coins in change without gloves

 

LOL You clearly have no clue about statistics and probability. Perhaps you can explain the meaning of the 17%? How about if I live with someone for one hour, how about if I live with someone for one week, how about if I don't spend any time in the same room with my household? Are you for mask wearing or not?

Summary: Mask wearing reduces the probability of infecting others whether in your own home or outside.

 

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Don't care if he got it, but feel really badly for all he infected....he is garbage...

WTF are you going on about?

Are you actually contending that people who wear masks are against the Constitution? How assinine…


I do feel badly for those who think lifting that big heavy mask up to their face and have a hard time figuring out how to wear it think it's the ONLY thing government has made them do.....what fools if they think that

 

Which is educating as many people as I can that science is better at getting out of it than politics. And making sure that those who refuse to be educated understand that, through their irresponsible actions and words, they put people's life in jeopardy, keep this pandemic going on and on, even making it worse, and that they are also ridiculing themselves and harming the country (and Trump's chances of getting re-elected... but that part I don't care about).

Oh... and same goes for those who confuse Covid 19 with the flu despite the many times it has been explained to them that similar apparent symptoms does not mean they are the same same disease.

That's what I believe will get me thru this pandemic. I'm happy you approve.

 

Man...I can only dream of being as cool as you.

 

The reality is more like he is all talk. I bet he wears his mask proudly but on here says the opposite to make himself feel cool. Been my experience that anyone who has to brag about themselves is usually a fraud.

 

Hi, 557. You may have noticed that I've posted similar statements regarding masks; if I'm not mistaken you "liked" one or two posts of mine. I posted most relevantly to this, a link to a large meta-analysis of about 216 studies IIRC, a table with 29 of them applying to masks both N95s and surgical masks both in healthcare settings and community settings, all with coronaviruses (this is important due to coronaviruses being smaller than influenza viruses), and all showing a reduction in relative risk favoring the use of masks.

However I'd also love to have the reference for these pieces of info you've mentioned, of risks dropping from 17% to 3.5% at home and from 2.5% to 0.5% outside. This would substantiate my posts on this, too. Would you please repeat the link to that, please?

Earlier in another forum I posted a link to a study showing a dramatic reduction in odds ration from 1 in 5 to 1 in 36 or something like this... but I was never able to find that study again. It's been several months ago and in a forum where I had thousands of posts and even though I tried, I couldn't find the specific post where I had mentioned that study.

Later today if you want it, I can send you the link to the meta-analysis I've been quoting (I have the link in my computer at home, not here at work during my lunch break; but it is somewhere in my brief posting history here; just no time to browse back right now). Cheers.

 

So you supply non peer reviewed analysis of research on influenza type infections. And the analysis concludes the protective effects greater in the household than outside the household. Just like I showed. Here is the quote from your link.

You should read your non peer reviewed links of analysis on non SARS-CoV-2 virons before posting them.

Even assuming your analysis is correct, who wouldn’t want to decrease the chance of infecting a family member by even 19%? Your analysis also states protection would be higher if not for poor mask protocols. You control how you wear a mask. Do it for your family. You do it for a very small protective effect on strangers, certainly you can be inconvenienced to bring a higher level of protection to your family.

 

What was that saying? Ya its a tough job but someone gotsta DO IT Last of the fully functional, virile Alpha male, hopefully I set a good example for the little followers being processed/indoctrinated today...

 

Then create a CURE, that would be far more impressive then posting or flapping about how things SHOULD BE DONE. I know when I hear one of the loons in public I tell them pretty much just that, and if they get mouthy I get close to them like I cant hear what they say and they run off like the cowards they

 

So the pandemic is "exploited by Medical Centers" by telling the truth?

My God! Your post was more absurd than I first thought!

 

This isn't what you're arguing. Any lives saved would be a good thing, obviously. Your methodology is what is putting them at risk though. It seems unlikely that you've thought this through enough to understand that while on one hand you cry out to save lives, but on the other, you'd push folks out with a false sense of security that further puts them at the same risk level as not having worn one. It is, as you say, unbelievable. Your tone suggests that you are desperate here. Why is that?