Mass Shooting in Vegas

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
    http://www.slidefire.com/
     
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    If your comparison indicates that you believe that automobiles should not be registered, subject to inspection, restricted as to where and how they are used, and their operators required to demonstrate competence in their operation, and denied their usage if they fail to comply with the requirements of responsible usage, do not expect Americans to accommodate you by eliminating all such requirements.

    Americans overwhelmingly support rational measures to end the permissiveness toward firearms that facilitates their being used so frequently to inflict human slaughter on the nation.
     
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    It takes <5 seconds to reload a revolver. 12 rounds, 12 seconds. He wants to ban them.
    I have an over/under shotgun - 2 shots. 4 reloads. 10 rounds in 60 seconds? Easy. He wants to ban them.
    I have a 1903 Springfield bolt-action rifle. 5 rd magazine. 1 reload. 10 rounds in 15 seconds. He wants to ban them.
     
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    It is 100% factual. In fact, to legally purchase a gun from an out-of-state seller, one must enlist the help of TWO FFL dealers; one in the state of purchase, who must accept and transfer the gun to another FFL in buyer's state. The buyer must then undergo a background check and fill out the required paperwork at his in-state FFL before he takes possession. Anything else constitutes a federal felony.
     
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    The hand held machine gun such as the shooter used is not a stable platform. I have fired the M-60 machine gun from my shoulder and it really moves all over. So did the M-14 fully automatic rifle I fired in Ca. We would fire our machine guns mounted on tripods and locked down. The idea was to keep them aimed at a point.

    We were trained in the Army that despite the machine gun being locked into one position, the firing pattern scattered around. Hand held, the machine gun will run up into the sky on you. Sort of like it was yanked up by a rope. They do better on crowds if held sideways. Like the punks do in movies do with pistols. But with a pistol, it hurts you aiming a pistol. Movies are so darned dumb over guns.

    We would use sticks and tap them into the ground side to side. We fired at night too so the sticks helped us keep our field of fire correct. Still we were told that despite having maybe 10 machine guns side by side, the enemy still could penetrate and to be on guard for that.
     
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    Marilou Danley is currently in the Philippines.
     
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    Here's the problem with your idiotic repetition. Neither I, nor the study that I linked, claimed that the licensing law is the sole cause of the 40% drop in gun homicide. If we had, then - and only then - would you have a tentative argument. As it stands, you do not. The study I linked and my statements are consistent with the claim that the licensing law is ASSOCIATED with the 40% drop.

    Now, take my advice and don't quit your day job. Logic ain't your forte.
     
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    you have a revolver with 12 cylinders?

    if you weapon cannot contain the 10 rounds, then argument for those are moot. we are talking about a magazine or clip holding more than10, right ?
     
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    Whatdo ya know? A liberal racemixer went crazy and started shooting up conservative events.
     
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    No, you can't just buy an automatic rifle like any other rifle. You must first apply and qualify for a special license/permit from the BATF. They investigate you, do extensive background checks, fingerprints, the whole nine yards. It's costly, invasive, and takes a long time. That's just for the license. The firearm could cost upwards of another ten to fifty thousand dollars. Even to manufacture them requires special federal licensing and regulation.
     
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    California is a terrible state to own guns and sell or buy them in. I sold guns out of state and shipped them Federal Express. I got the buyer to mail to me his FFL license and he could take possession upon receipt. To others, I shipped the gun to a Dealer of his choosing. Unless Obama changed the law, I know I am accurate. I do not hold any FFL license. I also never got any background check. I will ask the guy in New Jersey if he was forced to but he never mentioned it to me as he picked up his M-1 from the dealer.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Your desire to have politicians impose unlimited control over wombs is not a partisan issue. It is prohibited by the US Constitution.

    Nor is establishing reasonable measures to protects society from homicidal maniacs. That is permitted under the US Constitution.

    You are not allowed to confuse the disparate matters to suit your agenda.
     
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    My feelings exactly. That you wouldn't find it "offensive and nasty" when directed at me is certainly curious......
     
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    Untrue. Look up 'bump-fire stocks. It is an aftermarket stock, 100% legal and inexpensive, for any semi-auto (AR, AK, etc) that uses the weapon's recoil to emulate full-auto rate of fire. The most likely scenario is that his weapons were all legal, and fitted with a bump-fire stock.... though that is still speculation at this point.

     
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    Muslim prophets are Moses, Abraham, Jesus etc.. Muhammed was a caravan master.. and the rules of warfare, which you have not read in context, are all about defensive war.
     
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    Yeah yeah, I thought the venue was on casino property at the base of the hotel. Or a few hundred feet. It w as more like 1,300' and as I wrote later, the shooter could not have been easily seen, heard or identified as a threat.

    Our little hypothetical mind game assumed the man was just a few hundred feet away, in that circumstance one armed individual aware of the unfolding event could have effected change.

    Cheers
     
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    Oh.... I seee...
    You posted the CT study for informational purposes, rather than to support an argument for said licensure to expand elsewhere.
    Well, thanks for the information. Since we know correlation does not equal causation, the information is meaningless, but thank you anyway.

    And so, we're back to you not having an example of an argument for your position that does not rest on a fallacious appeal to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.
     
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    But seriously, if you object to guns, don't buy one.
     
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    It's astounding how many extremists ideologues rage against popular, reasonable, pragmatic measures being taken to reduce the likelihood of mass homicides occurring in America. Their bleating impotence is unseemly.
     
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    I disagree, the sound is MUCH closer than that of your m60 video
     
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    Federal laws on machine guns are fairly easy to look up and as you say, costly to buy. Some guns called machine guns really are not the military type. I found out years ago about devices to pull the trigger faster than men can pull it. I prefer a weapon that I can control the rounds per minute. Such as the AR-15 for the small caliber or the M-14 for a larger caliber. Ammo is not cheap.
     
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