Massive Cyber Attack Planned On Russian Banks December 5

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was never announced except by the Russian Intelligence who found out and are warning the people not to believe the 'fake news'. Had Russia not found out, then there might have been a war before Trump takes over, but as it stands there will not be.

    But look this is not the only provocation by Ukraine. They kidnapped two Russian soldiers, they sent in saboteurs to blow up places in Crimea, and they were ready to send missiles over Russian territory yesterday... which would have endangered civilian airliners. ..and the list goes on and on. In the meantime the Ukrainian people are suffering and going hungry while they play their games.
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    It's impossible. Russia is reasonable force.
     
  3. Draco

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    Oooooooor do they think that we think that they don't think we are thinking about what they think they might do, on Dec 5th

    Think about it....


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  4. zoom_copter66

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    Hmmm....must be phony news..slow day?
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    You read that there's 4 million refugees??? Where did you read...Sputnik..fort Russ..Pravda..aren't those news sources same level as National Enquirer?
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Typical, the fake news covering up the real news by calling it fake news. :roll:

    Use a little logic. Other than the refugees that left the Donbas to escape the missiles, there are those who feared being conscripted and becoming cannon fodder for Poroshenko. These men need money to feed their families so where would they go for work other than the country with a similar language.

    A few in the West went to Poland or Hungary, but most went to Russia. I read they are now getting together and might form a government in exile... and that would be great. They can kick out the mafia and become a country again instead of just another American colony.
     
  7. zoom_copter66

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    Use a little logic", same could be said for you, I read also nowhere did I read they're trying to form a govt in exile..typical fake troll news...trying to take back their country...well Jeannette not long ago you basically indicated Ukraine was not a "country", make up your mind and don't spout conspiracies...
     
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    The FSB did not say which countries' secret services were involved in the latest plot against Russian banks but alleged the attacks would use servers and "command centres" located in the Netherlands belonging to Ukrainian hosting company BlazingFast.

    Anton Onopriychuk, director of the Kiev-based company, told AFP it provides "services for protection against cyberattacks, not for attacks."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-foreign-spies-plotted-huge-cyberattack-095801860.html

    The Ukrainian hosting company BlazingFast was implicated in these cyber attacks and Ukraine's state security service (SBU) or Ukrainians may be involved in the planned attack. BlazingFast rents out server space with DDoS protection. Company director Anton Onoprichuk said he did not have any information about the planned attack. "We cannot find any malicious data. We have many customers and nobody can prove that our customers did anything wrong."
     
  9. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Oooppss...there goes the "Nazis" again...wonder which outfit, Azov, aidar, nope, this time it's LAH..aka Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler..well at least the brain dead katsaps, vatniks, moskals whatever one may call them owe the "Nazis" some gratitude , they made a good career of vilifying them and cashed in big$$$$...damn I'm in the wrong hemisphere...:roflol:
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you're not going to read something like that in our propaganda networks... nor in the major Russian papers. I have my own ways of finding out things ... just wait and see. Anyway it would be a break for Ukraine... Otherwise there is no way they could remain a unified country.
     
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    right...right..in other words you have eff all to say..in our propaganda networks..you may be right there..see ive been to Ukraine and Russia..and I have contacts in Ukraine who was also militia in eastern part Lugansk..where so called rebels are drug dealers, exconvicts, murderers, and general riff raff of society. These are "useful idiots" like Lenin liked to call them for the Russians. Motorola, givi, batman, zak, and such, so yes it would be a break for Ukraine if all these were eliminated then it could stay a unified state..as long as these and others like them remain ..yes Ukraine may break up..
     
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    I dunno if this story is true or not. Is it possible? Sure. And I reckon if Obama is gonna get back at Russia for hacking the dems and Hillary and releasing them to hurt Hillary, he is running out of time, right? So it is possible.

    Of course Hillary was blaming the Russians before the intel said it was Russia. Even as assange said it was not Russia who supplied him with the emails. So, who do I trust? Assange, who has never been shown to be a liar, and who has 100 percent accuracy, or our intel who let 9 11 get by them, and who supplied bad intel that justified the invasion of Iraq? Hmmm. Such a hard choice here. ha ha

    We are not talking about a higher secured email set up here, that you would assume another state might snoop on, but a lower secure email that any whiz kid could hack from his parents basement. Russia didn't do it. This is a ruse. Not like we can trust what this gov't tells us. They conduct most of their business in secrecy so the people do not know what they do in our name.
     
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    Sorry Jeannette...

    Again:
    The Rebels captured a complete BUG battery with all equipment! And the BUG system is not the newest in inventory (not new does not mean bad - no miss-understanding!) ... and because it was still many years in service in USSR and in Red Army a widely used Air Defense weapon, you can found thousands of people who are trained on this system during their Army Time!
    Sorry, this so often brought up argument that the system is too complicated and so Rebels have no personal to use it ... is only nonsense by facts about this missile system!

    And if I will start too with this ongoing silly "Propaganda claiming vs. Propaganda claiming" bull**** and all the ridiculous phrases and terms here ... what I don't like btw ... then following:
    The Pro-Russian side claims with this and that always that NATO and whatever mercenaries are involved in this conflict. OK ... but no Russian mercenaries and Special troops involved too? Who accuse one side here for something has always to be cautious not to accuse things which your side does too.
    Why do I tell this? BUG missile system is in all EX-USSR countries used and in many other countries too ... so even if the ridiculous nonsense of Rebels are not able to use is again topic, no necessary specialists from outside helping of course!
     
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    Your picture shows only the necessary issue of a battery to make the "job", but not a full battery equipment ...
    The weapon system consists of several vehicles. These are the mobile command point 9S470, the target search and detection radar 9S18 Kupol and two to six launch vehicles 9A310 with integrated missile guidance radar. The launch vehicles are equipped with four 9M38 rockets each. The Buk-M1 system also includes transport and loading vehicles for reloading the rockets onto the launch vehicles.
    :wink:


    However ... as I wrote were the Ukrainian Antonovs at limit to be shot down by portable missiles, so questionable that shot by them, but not impossible.
    And in combination to what I wrote to Jeannette ... please note that the BUG aka BUK was introduced into service of USSR in 1980 and so a bunch of specialists were trained on the system throughout EX-USSR from 1980 onwards. Ukraine has about 60 system and Russia over 400 ...

    The operation of this modern weapon requires an intensive training of at least six months. This is, for example, one reason why some experts doubt that the rebels in the Eastern Caucasus are able to use this modern rocket system. But is it also unlikely that there are specialists among the rebels who were trained in the Red Army or even in Ukrainian Army at the Buk complex?
    However, with the portable air raid missiles Strela and Igla, which are proven to be in possession of the rebels, only targets can be combated at altitudes of up to 3.5 kilometers ... = far to low too reach the Airliner and even the Antonovs!
    The Ukrainian air defense system also includes systems S-75 Dwina and Wolchow, S-125 Newa and S-200 and S-300, which are able to combat targets at altitudes above 10,000 meters. But these weapons are stationary and have allocated airspace sectors. They are also directed and deployed by the Central Command of the Ukrainian Air Defense. The fact that this central battleground confuses a combat aircraft with a pass-by aircraft on a registered flight route is virtually impossible ... even conspiracy people will say "not impossible" of course. So the launch of the Boeing 777 with one of these systems is unlikely.
    In the armament of the Ukrainian troops are also the older Kub-weapon systems. However, Kub can only fight targets at up to eight kilometers. With the Buk system, however, targets can be destroyed at a height of up to 25 kilometers. Should the Malay Boeing 777 have been shot down with a ground-to-air missile, then it is highly probable that only a 9M38 of the system Buk could have been. This is underlined by the fact that the "friend-enemy identification system" works on the 9A310 system of the Buk system according to the "question and answer" principle. If there is no answer to the electronically encrypted question "Who are you?", The system automatically releases the blockade of the rocket launch. There was no answer from the Malaysian machine possible, as such a "friend-enemy" system was not installed.

    The problem with evidence and counter evidence is always a problem at such issues when 2 sides blame each other to be guilty. Who of both is giving and releasing issues which does set him into a guilty position? No one! This opens then full room of propaganda of both sides with most ridiculous claims and statements, aside hate blabbering. What I mean is, does the Ukrainian and USA side release all details they have about? No! Does the Russian side this do? No!

    So hard to rate anything here and more a personal issue on which side someone is standing as a issue of real facts.
     
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    Soooooooo... it's December 5th. How'd that massive attack work out for y'all?
     
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    Give me a minute, I'm trying to hack as we speak.....


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    Because YOU say so means it should not!:wink:

    Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-run-by-miserable-jews-says-rebel-chief/


    UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA’S NEW JEWISH COLONY
    [​IMG]
    These four politicians have two things in Common:
    Missing from the photo is Madam Nuland.
    (1) They all wield tremendous influence in the new Jew-controlled Ukraine.
    (2) They are ALL Jews.

    A reminder:
    Holodomor, the Ukrainian word for “famine genocide”, was the man-made famine that killed 7-10 million people in Ukraine in 1932-1933. This was a genocidal program of monstrous cruelty carried out at the behest of Stalin’s Jewish Bolshevik regime.

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/ukraine-zionist-americas-new-jewish-colony-by-lasha-darkmoon/

    George Soros ‘Puppet Master’ Behind Ukrainian Regime

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/leaked-george-soros-puppet-master-behind-ukrainian-regime/206574/
     
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    Soooo it is 5 Dec...I don't see anything newsworthy of any attack...another bull crap posting by comrade doosh bag jeannette-ova I take...what's the next conspiracy from Sputnik news?
     
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    Haha... never thought YOU would be that naive!!!
     
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    Alright Jean. You got 15 minutes left. Best get to writing that next Russian propaganda piece on your blog spot.
     
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    AAAAAAAnd........it's over ! pwee what a day huh ?

    Hope all the Russian front posters and the Anti-everything Nazi scums here made it throu the attack :)

    Let's hear about that horrible day - forever to be known as "Dec 5th" from your account....
     
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    The main thing that BUK is a very complex system. For shooting you need several machines and at least a dozen trained professionals.

    Antonov was shot down while landing by the air defense of hands. The militia had only a manual means of air defense. Over this area there were many passenger aircraft. Ukraine is not closed airspace. They flew there for many months and no one saw traces of BUK missiles. But the militia had shot down about a hundred aircraft. If the militia had a Buk, why no one saw traces of BUK missiles? NATO can't provide any evidence except the squeal in the media. Nothing. As in the case of the history of doping. Yelp in the media and no evidence. 279 athletes from Russia broke 417 athletes from Germany in Rio. But Western fools to believe that Russia wins only because of doping.
     
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    Correct and that they were not given at rebels is in my opinion nonsense!



    Please stop to mix things here ... the doping issue is something else and that in Russian athletes were doped often is only disputed by idiots. And yes, of course do other make doping too and in my opinion China has to be investigated same way ... but you know what? I gave and give on this topic only a crap since decades, as Olympics & Co. interest me absolutely not at all!

    And about the rest, please read my post again. No side delivered any proof for anything here ...
    And what I gave were only pure undisputed military facts! Alone 2 Antonovs for example can't be shot down by man carried SAM, because to high for this sort of weapon! So what was it please?
    And yes ... that the Air Space was further open is something I blame Ukraine for much!
     
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    The rebels had not BUK. Obviously. Then who did?





    279 Athletes from Russia was allowed in Rio. They were all tested many times. They tore 417 athletes from Germany! It is necessary to check all, not just Russia and China. 279 clean athletes from Russia win. 417 dirty athletes from Germany lose. The athletes from Germany or USA can use a doping and WADA does not pay attention to it. Norway gives to athletes preparations for the treatment of asthma. Because WADA officials from Canada, USA and EU.
     

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