Like I said in an earlier post: The UK Liberal Party needs a version of Justin Trudeau (or a young Tony Blair).
It has got to the point that within even relatively affluent communities like my own university city of Exeter (150,000+/- pop.), even some professionals are resorting to food banks and charity. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ren-income-benefits-cuts-report-a7703451.html
More Tory goodness: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ks-theresa-may-andrew-marr-show-a7722296.html
and you and your screams of terrorism. God help us when people are so extreme they do not want the cause of the death of at least 30 people - more expected - and in the hundreds people left homeless, possessionless and without loved ones. It is hardly a surprise that someone who screamed terrorism then wants the causes kept hidden because it does not suit their viewpoint. Sickening.
Well this is Kensington where you have some of the richest people in the world. This was social housing but would have included people earning a decent amount. London however has been getting rid of it's lower paid people due to its influx of millionaires and impossible house prices. That is why they have made it absolutely clear that as long as they want it, the people will be rehoused, probably take about two years they were just saying, but be rehoused in the same area. Usually anything is seen as an excuse to get rid of people in social housing in London and then sell at high profit. I was living in London when Thatcher came out with her selling of council houses idea. We expected this to be the result....but of course London still needs lots of low paid workers to sweep the streets, work in hospitals, teach in schools and so on. Yesterday the BBC was talking about taxi drivers who usually now apparently come in from outside as they cannot afford to live there. They are describing the helplessness of the people waiting to die in Grenfell Tower as similar to those waiting to die after the sinking of the Titanic.
My mother bought our house in Putney, in 1962 for £5500. Today houses in the street are selling for £1.5 million+. I left London in 1983 for a better, cleaner, quieter and cheaper, life in Devon.
Predictably, much political grandstanding, with Labour basically selling the "it's the evil Tories killing people" line. One BBC (groan) reporter who I actually rate a lot said that many of the resident Muslims were observing some religious festival and were up late, which saved their lives. So it was basically Islam that came to their rescue. So, what? Convert or die? Oh well. Maybe I'm too cynical. I mean, fires do happen. It's why we have a fire service. This has had blanket coverage on the news since it happened.
Oh yeah, now Comrade Corbyn (Marxist loon heading the Labour Party) is calling for the residents to be rehoused in the most expensive accommodation in one of the most exclusive areas of London. The residents seem to be largely immigrants or ethnic minorities. Would he have been calling for the luxury treatment if they'd all been blue eyed white trash like me?
Charles Dickens was born over 200 years ago and is not the best example of class distinction in Britain today. You have no evidence to support your feelings.
When people are offering free food there are people who will accept it. The same goes for TV sets and toaster ovens.
You do realise that these people have lost everything they have - their homes, their possessions and for many of them their loved ones. Have some heart.
Why would the British people want to burden themselves with long term debt? Justin Trudeau is more a clone of Justin Beiber.
We have returned to the inequality of Victorian times and in London even worse. Britain faces Victorian levels of inequality, says Oxfam Pay gap widening to Victorian levels
Beg your pardon did not realise we had moved to Exeter. However as you will see we are at Victorian levels of inequality. We never used to need food banks. I do not remember any till ten or fifteen years ago.....and it is getting worse and going to get even worse with that Brexit you are so keen on.
Oxfam? Since when did they become experts on economics? In fact the Victorian Era had the highest standards of libving in the world at the time, with America becoming their only real competition. http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2013/09/economic-history-0
The highest for the rich, hell for the poor. Not much difference - great inequality in Victorian London. I gave you Oxfam and the Guardian. It is a well known fact that we have been increasing in inequality since the late 70's. The only developed country which has more inequality than the UK is the US....but apart from how this relates to the Grenfell Tower that is off topic. Obviously that we are starting to talk about it - and we are - they were going on about it in the meeting on Grenfell in the Westminster - so the fact that we are talking about it at last has to be a good thing - thanks in no small measure to the appeal of Mr Corbyn's policies on the electorate. ...but lets keep this on topic.
There has been a protest outside Kensington and Chelsea Town Hall. Not one counsellor came to talk to them. Now people are getting angry and trying to get in. People are angry because they are not getting notified of the dead. Some people are estimating could be around a hundred but only 30 so far confirmed. Also they want somewhere to stay rather than sleeping on a floor in a community centre.
70 people are still missing possibly dead - with the 30 confirmed deaths, I guess that is where the number of possibly 100 dead came from.
While there was certainly inequality, which country was doing better? They had an incredibly high standard of living and took over one fifth of the world. Which countries are doing better now? Seems to me that the decline in equality mirrors the decline in education. People are, for the most part, more poorly educated than they once were while those who get a better education, likely at private institutions, will thrive. The quality of public education has diminished, with results that can be easily forecast.
Hmmmmmm https://www.hiddenlives.org.uk/articles/poverty.html I could give you more and more. At the same time where you live also had such poverty. As it says above people were beginning but only beginning to be concerned about poverty. Well we have more people going to University than ever before. No, first we had the aristocracy. As it says above However from the French Revolution our aristocracy were terrified the people of Britain were going to get up to it as well. It changed after WW2 with Labour getting into Government and the Tories for a while though always being more there for the rich also believed in the Welfare State, equality of opportunity, social mobility and so on. It was your neocon's who came up with the way to stop all this and democracy - hell look what they got up to in the 60's. Democracy did not work they thought. Thatcher agreed. We got neo liberalism and corporate power and are now Plutocracies. We have a new aristocracy the 0.1% and bit by bit we will get poorer if we carry on this way and poorer that is without an increase in the quality of life. I have my fingers crossed that we in the UK are beginning to move in the right direction again. Things are starting to be said which had basically become taboo. That's the mistake the Tories made. They thought they were still taboo. but this is all off topic and interesting though it is we should leave it for now.
Right. And then perhaps we can discuss which countries were better off at the time and how spending years in school doesn't necessarily qualify as a well-rounded liberal education.
