Massive Voter Fraud Overnight

Did election officials and their supreme court of the state of Pennsylvania allow ballots to be counted that were received after the date set by the state legislature? If you are in support of free and fair elections then you should welcome these court filings and the investigation AG Barr just authorized into any allegations of irregularities within any state concerning federal offices. Each state AG should launch them into the state and local elections. This election has been a mess and we need to make sure we DON'T have a repeat.

 

I don't agree with the premise of the question. Why would it get laughed out of court? The DOJ just announce an investigation has bee authorized. What do you have against election transparancy?

 

Not a thing. The question of election transparency was raised in the last election when Dirty Donnie requested and received help from a foreign government then proceeded to obstruct the investigation at every opportunity. What did you (and Dirty Donnie) have against election transparency ?

You see, your standards are in question.

 

Affidavits of fraud are not evidence of fraud, the evidence still has to be produced.

Guess what, no evidence was produced, just some guy swearing he saw it. WE dont' even know what he saw
was what he says it is. He might sincerely believe what he saw was evidence, but we don't know that, because
he did not video what he saw, I mean, who doesn't have a cell phone these days? Why didn't he produce a video?



Moreover, EVEN if it were true, it's a localized irregularity. If it IS true, those who did it will be prosecuted.

But that doesn't equal 'dems cheating the election on a massive scale'. IN fact, to do that is logistically impossible, there are thousands of thousands of election offices across America, and a party would have had infiltrators in every office in a coordinated conspiracy. The system is far too decentralized for that to even be possible. The more you think about it, the more improbable it becomes. The charge is mindbogglingly absurd on it's face.

But, you know the old saying, put up or shut up.

But, it's a moot point, no evidence was produced.

 

Even if there are irregularities, that isn't proof of 'massive fraud'.
ALL elections have irregularities, so why is it a thing now?

Because Trump thinks he can make hay out of irregularities and sue his
way back to the white house. Ain't gonna happen, because there is no
proof of dem massive voter fraud. Irregularities here and there are not proof of massive cheating sufficient to impact an election. The vast majority of these 'irregularities' are bogus, 7 cases have been toss out
so far.

Think about it, for Dems to 'steal the election, well, to do that is logistically impossible, there are thousands of thousands of election offices across America, and a party would have had infiltrators in every office in a coordinated conspiracy. The system is far too decentralized for that to even be possible. The more you think about it, the more improbable it becomes. The charge is mindbogglingly absurd on it's face.

There is no way in hell Trump is going to sue his way back into the WH.

Biden WILL be inaugurated on January 20.

Get over it, Biden won, Trump lost, and that is that.

Lawsuits attacking election results require evidence. Trump has none.
Case dismissed.

Glenn Kirshner was a prosecutor for 30 years.

 

Yes, they've been counted - and there's no reason why they shouldn't be. Just another spurious objection. And to say that anyone interested in free and fair elections should welcome these "investigations" is equally spurious because (a) the intent, here, is quite the reverse - to reduce votes which primarily lean Democrat and cast doubt over the legitimacy of Biden's win, and, indeed, the entire electoral process - and hence (b) there are no legitimate grounds for them.

Barr's memo is simply an attempt to add an air of legitimacy to the these proceedings which they lack in themselves. Or in short, more noise in the concerted attempt to create the impression that the "election has been a mess". It hasn't. It's simply an illusion in furtherance of Trump's campaign - started months ago - to explain his potential (now actual) loss as a consequence of fraud, rather than a consequence of his failure.

 

No proof of rigging. Just BS.

 

I guess the incompetent Republicans are so terrible at their jobs they don't know how to control the process? Or be involved? Why vote for such incompetence.

 

IOW, you are unable to challenge anything Michael Moore told Tom Elliott.

 

Lol. Didn't bother to watch it because as I said, a link to an opinion of Michael Moore is hardly definitive proof, of anything.

 

The fun part of this will be watching the exposure of massive voter fraud. 450,000 ballots and counting...

 

The fun part is watching failures flop around like fish in a boat.

 

LOL! IOW, you do not believe your lying eyes. Right?

 

The RP is supposed to control critical counting centers in DP ruled urban hell holes? Think.

 

Michael Moore was proved right by the 2016 election. He has become far more credible than most left wing sources.

 

All you showed was some fencing. BFD. Videos don't prove anything. And you have yet to prove what your videos are about and that they actually amount to what you're saying in any way, shape, or form.

 

Control? I never said control, I said participate. I guess your argument is they are total incompetents.

Why vote R, if they are so incompetent they can't participate in their own election processes?

 

Try the state legislature of the state of PA and the US Constitution. Where did the governor derive the authority to extend the ballot acceptance date to beyond that set by the state legislature and on what grounds did the PSC uphold it?

 

Facts no in evidence what facts we do have is that it was the Clinton campaign and DNC that requested the assistance of a foreign agent to produce phony information from Russia and that investigation was never obstructed so it is YOUR standards. As McCabe has been questioned today the entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation was based on a statement by the Australian ambassador to the UK about a conversation he allegedly hear in a bar in London, a conversation the tapes showed did not contain what the FBI claimed in their FISA warrant. Yet the CIA, OUR CIA, sent evidence that the Clinton Campaign was working to produce false evidence from a foreign source claiming Trump and Russia were in some collusion in order to divert the investigation and press over her email scandal and they did not even make any phone calls about it apparently and McCabe trying to claim ignorance.

But back to hear why do you oppose transparency here? You want any inquiry into how this totally messed up election was held and the numerous irregularities that have been report shut down.

 

You could have just said "I got no evidence.". It would have been simpler and more truthful.

As for transparency, this election was not messed up(that's just your opinion) and I'm just waiting for the states to certify the results.

 

They can be under certain circumstance but then we are not in trial yet and the investigations have just begun or will be shortly then those affidavits become subject for investigation to produce the evidence.

Yes and they are enough to get restraining orders and then the full investigation. They are enough to get warrants issued. We are a long way from any trial on the facts and evidence the election is not even over yet.

How many localized votes were taken versus for a national office? They are just as subject to fraud and disfranchisement by fraud and just as important.

Doesn't have to be massive to effect and election when margins are so tight.

Let the investigations begin. You act as if you believe the campaigns have full criminal and civil investigatory powers and can issue subpoena's and then they prosecute.

And let's not forget the extension of the PA acceptance of ballots is a no brainer. The state legislature set the date and that being the day of the election that ballots could be received. The SecState, the Governor nor the PSC had the authority to change that date and any ballots received after that date were illegally cast and should be tossed out. The US Constitution says ONLY the state legislature can set the rules of the election.

 

And? While the case argues that the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania violated the constitutional right of the legislation to determine election matters, and therefore its decision should not stand, the SC of Penn ruled on the basis that disallowing the extended deadline - created in response to a "natural disaster" - violated the constitutional rights of voters under the Free and Equal Elections clause.

It's unclear how SCOTUS would rule if they revisit the case. SCOTUS deadlocked 4-4 on the issue on Oct 19.

A key consideration would be whether voters should be disenfranchised - after the fact, and irredeemably - for having acted in accordance with instructions that votes postmarked by or on election day would in fact be counted.

 

Some 10 lawsuits have been thrown out of court for 'insufficient evidence'.

I'd say the odds are way way way in Biden's favor.

FYI, even of those segregated PA ballots are tossed, it doesn't change the outcome, which is why I doubt SCOTUS will even take the case.

 

It does have to be massive. If there were a conspiracy by dems to 'steal the election', how could they possibly know before hand which states would be the final critical states where the election will ultimately be decided? It was initially thought Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, but now it's looking more like PA, GA, NV and AZ. In order to effect a conspiracy, not knowing with 100% where the fight will be, dems would have to have operatives dispatched, accepted for volunteering work, months in advance, each according to each states process for staffing election office volunteers ( some are paid, some are not ) in EVERY STATE and EVERY ELECTION OFFICE ACROSS AMERICA and then they would have to get away with it. Well, even a half wit can see that such a massive conspiracy is doomed to fail, resulting in jail for the perps, and why in holy hell would any one even consider it?

The prospect of that is absurd on it's face. This is probably why this administration is the only administration in history to accuse his opposition, in a very public way, for well over a year, accusing his opposition of 'the only way they can win is if democrats steal the election'.

That is where your logic fails, and it fails utterly.

Apparently you are not familiar with the high court's constitutional interpretation of 'state legislature'. Historically speaking, 'state legislature' consists of the whole shebang, the state legislature, the state supreme court, the gov, as the high court has previously held that the word “legislature” in the Constitution doesn’t necessarily mean the literal legislature, but rather the state’s lawmaking process as a whole, as ruled by SCOTUS in Smiley v. Holm and Ohio ex rel. Davis v. Hildebrant. Of course, there is the possibility that the extreme right wing court might not accept those precedents. More info, visit http://bluenc.com/content/scotus-plays-dictionary

Now then,
Even if those segregated PA ballots are tossed, it doesn't change the outcome, because when they were segregated, their numbers were excluded from the count, which is why I doubt SCOTUS will even take the case.

Moreover,

Some 10 lawsuits have been thrown out of court for 'insufficient evidence'.
I'd say the odds are way way way in Biden's favor.