Media lie of day.. 2/24/17

Actually, I will accept their findings.
I just think it hypocritical for Trump FanBoys to whine about the big, mean press printing those fake stories when their leader spent YEARS trying to foist a fake
story on the public. It's pathetic. Presidents from Clinton to Nixon to Reagan have had to deal with a hostile press. Put on your Big Boy pants and go to work, Mr. Trump.

 

So we don't forget

 

Sounds like you are whining because President Trump does not stand for the lefty media nonsense. Why should he?

 

So you are looking for the truth from the Sean Spicer. Don't you think he is just a wee bit biased? Trump and his staffers, like Flynn and Spicer, have a pattern of misrepresenting the truth. It is comical that you would seek the truth from the White House.

That is the problem with Trump fans. Even though they have been lied to several times, they still believe him.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer falsely claimed the crowd on the National Mall was “largest audience to ever witness an inauguration.” (Jan. 21)

Trump falsely claimed that the crowd for his swearing-in stretched down the National Mall to the Washington Monument and totaled more than 1 million people. (Jan. 21)

As Trump fondly recalled his Inauguration Day, he said it stopped raining “immediately” when he began his speech. A light rain continued to fall throughout the address. (Jan. 21)

During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump claimed the media made up his feud with the agency. In fact, he started it by comparing the intelligence community to “Nazi Germany.” (Jan. 21)

Trump claimed that his inauguration drew 11 million more viewers than Barack Obama’s in 2013. It didn’t, and viewership for Obama’s first inauguration, in 2009, was even higher. (Jan. 22)

Spicer said during his first press briefing that there has been a “dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years.” This is false. (Jan. 23)

While pushing back against the notion of a rift between the CIA and Trump, Spicer claimed the president had received a “five-minute standing ovation” at the agency’s headquarters. He did not. The attendees were also never asked to sit down.

 

You may be sadly misreading Trump FanBoys. Most of us could care less what the media thinks of Trump. The press is all too self important and polishing their brushed ego is not worth the effort.
We are only concerned with the unhappiness exhibited by those who have had no sleep since Nov. 20th.

 

It's good of you to try to do this, but it doesn't help. I have asked on numerous threads for people to comment on fake news items like those listed within The Federalist:

Early November: Spike in Transgender Suicide Rates
November 22: The Tri-State Election Hacking Conspiracy Theory
December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure
January 20: Nancy Sinatra’s Complaints about the Inaugural Ball
January 20: The Nonexistent Climate Change Website ‘Purge’
January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy
January 20: Betsy DeVos, Grizzly Fighter
January 26: The ‘Resignations’ At the State Department
January 27: The Photoshopped Hands Affair
January 29: The Reuters Account Hoax
January 31: The White House-SCOTUS Twitter Mistake
January 31: The Big Travel Ban Lie
February 1: POTUS Threatens to Invade Mexico
February 2: Easing the Russian Sanctions
February 2: Renaming Black History Month
February 2: The House of Representatives’ Gun Control Measures

The article concludes with the following:

You know what I got back from those on the left? "Oh, those are minor news stories. Don't even bother us with having to deal with those..."

So good luck with trying to get a reasonable response...

 

Do you have any documentation for your "well documented" opinion?

Do you have a comparative analysis to support your opinion?

Do you have a link to the NYT saying that it "will report on Trump through the lens of him being a demagogue and a racist"?

Do you have credible evidence for your alleged media conspiracy?

That you acknowledge your reality does not bestow universality upon it.

Please provide a link to your poll. Was it a survey of the same people who assign him unprecedented, low approval at this stage of presidential tenures?

That lie has been discredited by multiple credible sources: [T]here is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it. Why do you persist in attempting such a tired falsehood?

Evidence?

So were most folks with a sense of humor.


The pantywaists whining along with their messiah that "the media" is being mean to him must meet the reasonable standard of providing specific, documented instances of factually incorrect information about him being purveyed by it, just as it is incumbent upon him and his minions to transform their fantasy of 3-5 million invisible voters all casting ballots against him into truth via credible evidence.

Hyper-partisan rage is no substitute for reality.


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The hypersensitive narcissist's assault on the free press will prove counter-productive. It serves as an invitation to scrutiny, and scrutiny is abhorrent to any individual who likes to fancy himself infallible and above the normal standards of veracity.

You can promise to come clean with your tax returns and blithely go back on your word to the American public, but that should not serve as a signal that you can “Grab them by the credulity! You can do anything!

No, you can't.

As each and every Bowling Green Massacre occurs, it is incumbent upon the incumbent to provide credible evidence, and it is incumbent upon the free press to demand it. When they differ, both should focus upon particularities and document inaccuracies.

Whining that one is being mean to the other is not helpful.


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Yep. Amoral unprincipled fashionistas are incapable of getting it, and never will. They're history, and can't admit it.

 

^ FINALLY, someone on the forum who was present at Barack Hussein Obama's birth. Who else was there besides his mother and you?

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Curious how the press and media never say why she thought of Bowling Green in the context of terrorists, huh?

 

I appreciate the work that goes into debunking Trump's interpretation of events.
However, we should be aware that the whole issue goes beyond 'what the facts can tell us'. The partisan nature of the political divide should not surprise us. Trump speaks to people's hearts, he articulates their fears and rage, and we are dealing with human subjectivity, emotion and so on. You can't 'prove' to somebody that Jews are not secretly running the world, in the same sense that you cannot 'prove' to somebody that God doesn't exist. The nature of scientific inquiry prohibits it's extension into the social field. You cannot enter the social field as a scientist approaching a problem concerning the natural world. Things like anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are not the product of 'weighing up' various bodies of evidence, but a desperate way in which ordinary people attempt to rationalize the conditions they find themselves in, a product of ideology etc.

 

Enemy of the People: Can you support your accusation with any specific, credible evidence, Mr President?"

Trump: "Waaaaa! You're being mean to me!"

 

Trump's cult operates on emotion, not reason, but that does not absolve their messiah from the normal constraints of rational discourse demanded by Americans who are reality-oriented.

It is the duty of the press to seek substantiation of unfounded presidential assertions. If it exists, it is in the interest of any president to provide it. If it does not exist, maligning the press is not an acceptable distractive alternative for those who are not of the cult.



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Just a public service announcement, you immediately appear to be very stupid and dishonest with this fake news nonsense. YOu can say it all you want, people with brains know its just deflection. Trump and his administration lies constantly, proven to be lies all the time. So deflecting that all of news media is fake news is just dumb. As dumb as the BS fox news has been selling about main stream media, while you watch a show proven to be caught in numerous lies and spin constantly.

So seriously, stop making fools of yourself. if you can't defend your horrendous POS candidate, then simply be don't bother, because you look bad trying to with these lame ass deflections

 

I do not regard "the press" and the "media" as competent to act as mental health professionals. When falsehoods are perpetrated by the so-called president's minions, it is their duty to report them without indulging in psychoanalytical musings.

 

Do you understand where the idea came from that Obama was born in Kenya?

 

Trump spent 5 years claiming Obama was not a legitimate President because he was not born in America.

Therefore I will spend the next (however many years it is) that Trump is illegitimate because he cut a deal with Russia to steal the election(removing all sanctions and allowing russia to do whatever they want), with the aid of Reince Priebus(why he got chief of staff job) and it seems with Republicans in Congress(why they aren't investigating anything).
And yes, we are getting proof of this leaked out daily (which is why the administration is trying to shut down these leaks).


And it doesn't matter if I have prof of any of this.
Facts don't matter anymore.

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Of course I agree with you. But I feel that pert of the problem of the Left is in our condescending attitude toward ordinary people. Do you think that Bernie Sanders' supporters were operating any less on emotion, on a fire kindled in their hearts? Imagine Sanders was the president instead of Trump. We would see a media equally engaged in a process of discrediting, of saying 'no this isn't possible, no you can't tax the capitalists they will all fly away' etc. and they would be wrong. Not because they hadn't provided the necessary facts and suchlike, but because those facts are put forward in such a way as to prohibit substantive political change, but facts don't stand in our way, our WILL alone dictates what can and cannot be done politically.

 

Many lies have been told and exposed subsequent to its contrivance, but Andy Martin would appear to be the prime suspect:

 

I'm disinclined to speculate about imaginary presidencies but, yes, whilst Bernie's fans were emotional, I would hold him to the same standard as any other candidate, demanding that he back up his self-serving assertions with credible data.

Did the Democratic Party in general and Hillary Clinton in particular give less-educated White Americans the feeling that the Party had abandoned them? I think so. That, secondary only to an anti-establishment Zeitgeist, caused Republicans to reject experienced politicians and many (but not most) American voters to then reject yet another of them.

Neither the abnormal nativity of a political ingénue nor the blind faith of his worshippers exempts him from normal standards of accountability as POTUS.

If there is an instance where he believes a media outlet has falsified facts, let him offer credible specifics.

 

Over at least the past month, I've provided extensive evidence and proof for everything I stated. I'm not going to spend a half day collecting it all together because you haven't been following threads. If you're truly interested, use the search PF search feature. It really works.

Still, I'll say that by simply removing your partisan tinted glasses, you'll see that what I stated is empirically obvious. It's the same obvious many of us saw while you were rabidly railing against Trump's chances leading up to the election. I would think you'd want insight to that kind wisdom instead of continuously fighting it. Why you find joy in getting things consistency wrong is perplexing.

 

Thank you for your honesty. I'll keep this in mind anytime you provide an opinion or take a position.

 

Speak for yourself. You may have a condescending attitude...but that's your problem

 

The real news is that Obama's vault birth records have never been revealed because Obama paid a law firm to keep them buried. And both birth certificates provided by Obama have been concluded to be fraudulent by document forensic experts.

 

No, you haven't.

Here is your chance to provide credible documentation for a single blatant trumpery and refute Snopes' having discredited his fake claim: