Media lie of day.. 2/24/17

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by petef56, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The residue of incorrigible crackpot "birthers" now evoke their derangement in a futile attempt to divert attention from their messiah. It fails miserably.



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  2. Injeun

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    Not a diversion. Just a correction of someone else who brought up the topic as a means to belittle President Trump. An effort to which I see that you inextricably sworn and bound.
     
  3. poopoohead

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    I don't think this is a projection of my own condescension. I've seen what amounts to the so-called criticism of Trump in the media. Smug talk show hosts belittling ordinary people, calling them stupid and so on. How many protest placards do we need to see with these smug witticisms, with their reliance on appeals to 'common sense'.

    The popularity of such backward filth today shows us that socialism is possible today, that today as never before the ruling order is losing legitimacy in the eyes of ordinary people, that they are clutching on to such a diverse array of degenerate ideology, from anti-semitism to the revival of ancient pagan religions. Yet still the Left talks as if we are just facing some minor course change, still thinks that the centre-ground can be recaptured.
     
  4. Lesh

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    How about some actual examples. You lost most reasonable people at "clutching on to such a diverse array of degenerate ideology, from anti-semitism to the revival of ancient pagan religions."

    You might want to remember that the Westboro Baptists (just to name ONE extreme group) is right wing
     
  5. HereWeGoAgain

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    And you consider that evidence of anything?

    Take a logic class sometime.
     
  6. Cal-Pak

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    But how is this any different from what the entire Trump Administration has done?
    "The leaks are real, but the news is fake"?
    To them facts don't matter anymore, either.

    But I take it you will still believe them.
     
  7. HereWeGoAgain

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    I just saw where Trump claimed on Fox Noise that we have GDP around 1%.

    It is 2.2%. But he thinks he can get it up to 3%

    He said 4 or 5% during the campaign.

    Under GW is was -6%
     
  8. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truth about CNN: Shh...., we're not supposed to know about this. The LSM has buried this one deep.

    CNN loses first round of court battle over accusations it reports ‘fake news’
    http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/02/19/cnn-loses-first-round-court-battle-fake-news-reporting/
    In an 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, the judge agreed, saying, “The Court finds these allegations sufficient to establish that CNN was acting recklessly with regard to the accuracy of its report, i.e., with ‘actual malice.’” An impartial federal judge has issued a ruling in a defamation lawsuit that essentially alleges(*)that(*)CNN is a purveyor of “fake news.”
     
  9. fizbo

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    Your response here is fine, but I never made any attempt to rationalize that 3-5 million illegal immigrants voted illegally. Not in my post you originally quoted, or ever. This is why I wasn't going to chase you down a rabbit hole with your endless questions. No answers, however extensively documented, were going to satisfy you. More important, like you did here, you'd make a left turn out of nowhere and go a completely different direction.

    No thanks, but nice try. :roll:
     
  10. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crying "Fake News" whenever Trumplethinskin is having a tantrum has become so ubiquitous and jaded that no one with even half a brain is even listening which is rendering that already very played out tactic inconsequential when it comes from the swamp...formerly known as The White House.

    Here is what should really be concerning the Donald Dump fans and followers...YOU are being and have been monitored and mind-bent and I must say, you are the perfect candidates for brainwashing...:eyepopping:

    Just a few excerpts...

     
  11. petef56

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    You missed the point. All a person needs to do is watch the entire press conferences and then watch how the media distorts what was said.

    As for all your list of Trump lies, who cares if Trump brags and exaggerates how much he won by or how great he is. It's so insignificant and everyone knew he was a yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge bragger and exaggerator before they voted him in. The list you posted amounts to NOTHING!

    Now, lets have a look at CNN and some of the other mainstream media lies and do a comparison as to which is worse for America. CNN has conspired with the DNC in an effort to interfere with the elections. This is why they are saying Trump conspired with the Russians, in order to take the heat off themselves.

    "Always accuse your victim (or your adversary) of what you yourself are doing." <---CNN and other MSM outlets.

    -pete-
     
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    Your post says NOTHING! Care to elaborate?
     
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    What I believe is that in many ways, Trump is very much a man-child. He exaggerates, plays loose with the truth, and throws out claims that are difficult or impossible to substantiate.

    At the same time, I believe he's capable of repairing this country economically in ways Obama and Clinton were absolutely incapable of doing. So right now, I really don't care if he exaggerates about the number of Illegals who voted. I don't care about his claims of the number of people who attended the inauguration. I don't care about all the cries of "lies" that pale in comparison to the overt dishonesty exhibited by Obama and Clinton. All I care about is the end game, if we can achieve even half of what Trump has committed to.

    If Trump fails to fulfill a reasonable number of his promises, I'll be all over him as much as anyone. Until that happens, I want him to succeed. And you should to.

    BTW, I was thinking about your prior post where you honestly stated that from your perspective, facts don't matter. I initially wrote that post off as just another PF tweet from an ultra partisan progressive liberal, but I believe it goes much deeper than that. In fact, I think your statements were so profound that it deserves a topic of it's own. Stay tuned.
     
  14. ImNotOliver

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    Good top see that the right wing misinformation network has been effective - for those kind of people anyhow.

    As if they are fooling anyone with their fake news silliness. Especially considering that it is coming from a side whose ideology relies on false premises, whose political party relies on false characterizations of others, whose leader, the so-called president, regularly says things that don't square with reality, and whose followers tend to be easily duped.
     
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    Trump's administration wants law enforcement to tell truth.

    Liberals want law enforcement to lie ...but only when the lie keeps their conspiracy theories alive.

    That is what is happening here.

    Just because you cant apply a critical analysis doesn't mean ...that isn't whats happening here.
     
  16. gophangover

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    Lie of the day.....Trump, "It's Obama's fault". Someone this disconnected with reality, shouldn't have the nuclear football.
     
  17. Wehrwolfen

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    Is America Safer Under Obama? - Outside The Beltway
    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/is_america_safer_under_obama/
    May 28, 2009(*)ยท Is America Safer Under Obama? ... you shouldn&#8217;t be throwing ... but not so much with Bush. Really? Were there more NORK nuclear and long-range ...

    Fast forward to present 2017. Obama's failed policies have led to NORK's advances in ICBM's, and worse problems in the M.E. leaving it to the new president to handle these problems. Obama was tasked with making America safe and calm the chaos in the world. He failed. He should return that Nobel Peace Prize.

    Comment made in 2009 ..."You think we are safer without a missile defense shield? How about a vastly reduced number of F-22s? How does the credibility of our nuclear shield look when all of our warheads are aging and will not be upgraded during the administration of Obama? What would Obamas response be if China decided to forcefully take Taiwan? He has not shown real strength with North Korea, China, Iran or the rest of the belligerent's fight against Democracy and Freedom.
     
  18. Natty Bumpo

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    If you can't defend the crackpot fantasy of 3-5 million invisible voters all casting bogus ballots against the Novelty Act, his hallucinatory "thousands and thousands" cheering terrorism in New Jersey, his deranged insistence that his predecessor was illegitimate (Okay, we're still waiting for his investigators to reportt back from Hawaii), how about his latest paranoid excuse for the people speaking truth to power in town hall meeting across America:

    If that one is too much to handle, why not try finding a specific instance of the reputable media actually lying about your messiah?

    I certainly make no claims for their infallibility, so you should be able to cit one documented inaccuracy that you can pretend was deliberate and malicious.
     
  20. Natty Bumpo

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    A self-inflicted effective one, to be sure. "Birtherism" was a hoot!
     
  21. reality1

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    The original claim came from his bio for his book. Whether correct or not that is where it came from. How he handled the situation once it became an issue only fanned the flames.
     
  22. Injeun

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    You look good strapped to that wayward torpedo.
     
  23. fizbo

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    Well, The Federalist easily found 16 of them:

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

    And they don't cover close to everything.

    As to your fetish related to illegal alien voting, show that you're capable of behaving like a rational human being, and we can discuss that further.
     
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    Oh, Brother---Please go back & read your own words here---You SAY " there is no "evidence",then you say " "when the FBI,DHS,the CIA & the NSA "finish" with their investigations"----So, to me,you are just repeating Nunez's rhetoric---How can you say there is no there there when not one witness has been called, not one piece of document has been delivered,However that being said,preliminary reports have given enough "Evidence" to move forward---
    Trump's administration can spin this anyway they like, however, In my opinion,given that we know that trump's administration has gone to Nunez & Burr & told them to call the media to tamp down talk about Russia's involvement,(which they both admitted that), it stands to reason that it was Previous that approached the deputy FBI agent,not the other way around, But, the answer to this is quite simple, the FBI deputy knows the 4 people that can ask questions about an ongoing FBI investigation,Previous' inexperience didn't know this, it is obstruction of justice----
     
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    Because if there was anything the Obama administration would have put it out prior to Jan 20.

    Face it.

    There is nothing.

    Every spy agency on the PLANET had Trump under a microscope because that's the sort of attention American Presidential candidates get.

    Are you saying that Trump fooled them all?

    Because if he did then he is the greatest super spy ever known.
     

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