Memphis business owner ordered to remove American Flag so it does not offend!

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  1. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a sad day in America when a small business owner cannot fly our flag in front of her office and even faces consequences if she does not remove it. This would have never happen 20 years ago.
     
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    I wonder if Tesco Properties is owned by an American citizen or a foreigner with divided loyalties?
     
  3. bigcrash

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    When I first heard the story I was a bit miffed myself, but apparently it's stated in the rules that she agreed to when she occupied the place, and, as the story says, the complex already flies a couple of American flags. I have no issue with this.
     
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    As someone who lives in Memphis, I am not surprised she was required to remove this because this area has extremely stringent building code requirements.

    For example, take a drive down Poplar Avenue in Germantown and you will see no golden arches, billboard signs, restaurant signs or powerlines in the air either. You will see American flags but on flag poles that in accordance with code requirements. I seriously doubt the removal has anything to do with the flag being potentially offensive.
     
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    They mentioned Homeowners Associations, who I think are just Nazis with no swastika or racist intent.
     
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    You are obviously being blinded by some kind of nationalist rage that you don't understand.

    She is part of a business park. They have a COMMON flagpole representing the ENTIRE park. The idea is to present a consistent and unified facade for business.

    Old Glory is represented by a common flag, hers is against the rules that she agreed to when she took space in the office park and it makes her business stand out over the others, which is agreed by common consent among the renters as a no-no. She knew this when signing up. You CAN legally sign over your rights like that you know.
     
  7. PatrickT

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    I was planning on moving to a small city in western Colorado when I quit working. I went there and met with a real estate agent. I requested a two-bedroom home, within a mile--walking distance--to downtown, and no homeowners associating. He called me a week later with some good leads on homes but all had homeowners associations.

    "I can't find any place within walking distance of downtown that doesn't have a homeowners association."

    So, like any good American, I moved to Mexico. A friend was visiting me in my new home and as we strolled through a very colorful neighborhood he said, "My god, Pat, do they let you paint your house any color you want?" "Imagine that, Jerry, imagine that."

    Of course, that was ten years ago. Now the California Syndrome is moving south of the border but with luck I'll be dead before it's too bad.
     
  8. Mike Frank

    Mike Frank New Member Past Donor

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    This is private property rights, she signed an agreement to abide by certian rules, I agree with the property owners on a constitutional law standard. I think flying the flag is a great form of support but, do it on your own property or get written permission from a property owner, end of story.
     
  9. Think for myself

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    Perhaps should should read the CC&R's of the place she leases prior to leasing it.

    Just a suggestion to the obvious genius optometrist.
     
  10. Think for myself

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    Probably owned by Hugo Chavez or Kim. I mean, obviously this is a plot by communists in order to take over the world.

    I have always thought the first sign of a crushing Marxism regime is going to be forcing tenants to adhere to the restrictions a property owner has in place and not clog up common areas with flags.

    I think Holder is probably in on it too.
     
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    The American flag is offensive to many cultures. If multiculturalism is to prevail we must be respectful of all cultures.
     
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    I think the answer is simple than...do not come, and and for God's sake do not live in the United States of AMERICA if you are offended by the flag of the United States of AMERICA...any questions?
     
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    Please tell me you are joking.
     
  14. Roadvirus

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    Don't these numbnuts organizations know that by now, the minute they call for an American flag to be taken down, their facist & unpatriotic request will be all over the Mainstream Media and they'll be the subject of such uncalculable ridicule that'll they'll eventually be forced to back down?
     
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    Doubt it.

    It's a very reasonable request considering the cirumstances. Property management companies with prime realestate could care less about the Fox spin.
     
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    Including the German Culture of the late 1930s or the Confederate 1860s South & it's Culture or American Culture in general of 1959 ?
     
  17. HonestJoe

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    You seem to have posted the wrong article. The thread subject line promised us a story about demands to remove a flag to prevent offence.
     
  18. PatrickT

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    I don't think the problem is the flag is offensive. The problem is lawyers telling the Homeowners Association that if they don't enforce every rule, every time, they can't enforce any rules any time.

    I've never figured out why Americans are so happy to have their neighbors dictate what color they paint their house or what "window dressings" they have or what kind of landscaping they have done or whether their roof as shake shingles--usually called tinder--or fake fireproof shake shingles but for some reason they do. I guess Americans love being told how to live their life. They feel safe and secure.
     
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    it has to do more with home values, not safety and security.

    A HOA is what prevents a crazy guy from moveing into your nice neighbhood and start setting up chicken and pig pens, or to prevent them from leting their home deteroiate to a point it affects everyone elses home value.
     
  20. PatrickT

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    Of course, that's it. And if a person paints their house a color other than one of the three approved your property values will plummet. And, what if he puts in unapproved window dressings? My god, the horror. And some deviates actually plant unauthorized plants.

    The property values nonsense is a fraud. Americans like being told what to do and they love telling others what to do. Oh, and the plethora of rules will keep "them" from trying to move into your neighborhood.
     
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    I have no love for HOA or Condo Associations. So I just refuse to live where there are any.

    Some people love the idea of an environment where no one can possibly upset their calm by painting their home bright purple or having 10 junker cars sitting in the front yard. They chose to live in places with rules in place to prevent this. I get this- and while I would never choose to live in such a place- I completely endorse their right to agree to abide by uniform rules.

    If you can't find a place without an HOA then clearly the answer is to move to Mexico.....

    Or pretty much most of the rest of the U.S.
     
  22. TheLastBoyScout

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    Home owners associations are generally (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.

    This is not unpatriotic oppression as HOA's would just as easily complain about high grass, or garden gnomes, or paint color.


    The victim card is not legitimately played here. If you don't understand the function of Home Owner's associations, you should stay clear of them. You basically agree to forfeit rights on your own property.
     
  23. Louisiana75

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    Okay, so many of you liberals were very quick to assume she did break a rule, but did she?
     
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    The minutia of the HOA rules and whether they apply and she is breaking them is a matter for courts to determine.

    It makes a shocking headline, but for people who have ever lived an HOA, they know this story. Barely anyone who moves into a community governed by a HOA is completely aware of all the rules and when cited is often blindsided. What sucks is that the HOA's can be real sticklers and they do go by some very restrictive guidelines.

    Guilt or innocence of breaking the rules is not assumed by me, but I do know that turning it into some kind of patriotic victimization will not change the legal ramifications that she agreed to by virtue of living in HOA governed property.
     
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    I've just been having a quick look into these HOA things. They seem to be able to tell homeowners what colour they can paint their own house, whether they can have a washing line, how to maintain the garden, and all sorts of stuff, and 60 million people in the US live under these kind of restrictions. Am I getting this right?
     

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