Memphis business owner ordered to remove American Flag so it does not offend!

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  1. BuckNaked

    BuckNaked New Member

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    Moral of the story; read your lease agreement or homeowners agreement, before you sign it, and if something doesn't agree with you tell them exactly why you are not going to lease or purchase a structure under those idiotic rules, and leave.

    If you signed an agreement accepting these terms, your an idiot! You placed yourself in the situation, deal with it.
     
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    Yep and if they are complaining they are the idiots for signing the agreement.
     
  3. Jet57

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    More crap. That optomitrist is operating on private property, and their are rules that are followed by contractual agreement. If she gets that flag pole, then everybody gets a flag pole with ewhatever flag they want it, and that creates a problem doesn't it.

    This is phony patriotism again.
     
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    We're talking about a flag, not a pig pen. These HOA guys need to get a grip and stop being so anal.
     
  5. BuckNaked

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    The thought is if we allow you to hang your flag everybody else will be allowed to hang their own flag (devil worshipers, KKK, Nazi‘s, the tri-boob tribe with actually naked boobies, etc…). Don't know the particular situation but if you allow one then you have to allow all, that could create a problem. In any case she signed the lease and "has" to abide by the rules she agreed to or be in violation of her lease. Read the dang lease or don't complain because your an idiot. Simple.


    If enough people refuse to lease because of the rule they will either rewrite it to include Old Glory and deny the rest, or they will just allow anyone to put up anything they want. As it is now there are no flags allowed and evidently no exceptions.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    No, we don't want to rake leaves, shovel snow, cut grass, water, fertilize, replace the roof, paint the outside, trim the trees, bushes, stain the deck, weed...etc.
     
  7. Goodoledays

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    :twisted:And this is AMERICA. And the AMERICAN flag is part of AMERICA. If those of other cultures are against it fine let them go to a country that fits their priorities. Whats it going to be next...wearing something red, white, and blue at the same time going to be banned. You don't like our culture then get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out.
     
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    :mrgreen:Well if ones like Fox gets the word out it going to take enough effect that these people better wise up to what they are doing. More people in or were in the military will be backing this person and the people opposing the flag just better run.
     
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    I know that conservatives think they can break their word anytime they want to for any frivolous reason but she signed a contract.

    If she doesn't like it. She's free to move her business.

    Or here's a crazy idea: how about putting up a flag that falls with in the associations guidelines that she agreed to.
     
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    :twisted:Instead of putting up a flag within the asst. guidelines its better to stand up to these jerks and get the word out they aren't true Americans.
     
  11. BuckNaked

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    Not for the slave wages that are offered. The cost of living is too high to deliberately assume a job that cannot provide an individual with the basic necessities, and the only reason those jobs are not taken by Americans is because of the illegal invasion of wetbacks that diminish the ability of someone entering the work force cannot fight for a decent, livable wage.
     
     
    This mindset is disturbing to say the least. Who do you think used to do all those jobs before, work became a four letter word, and working an honest days work for an honest days pay became a antiquated fad?
     
    I would much rather work outside in the fresh air, working with my hands, creating things or making them better, than sit in an office or a cubicle all day.
     
    If anything people are simply stupid to not recognize what is going on with our nations ability to maintain a productive economy, and what is the source not allowing it to happen.
     
    I’ll give you a clue;
     
     
    It starts with;
     
     
    The best government…
     
     
    And ends with;
     
     
    …corporate money can buy.
     
     
    The sad part is people pay way more than they should for these services but the money is all pocketed by an extremely small percentage of the individuals responsible for getting it done. Those other under paid individuals who should be getting a share of the profits their work creates, become the dependents of the government.
     
     
    So you have a company under paying the workers and then complaining when they are forced to go to the government to supplement their insufficient income. Wouldn't it be better for everybody if they cut out the middle man and paid a realistic wage in the first place? They are going to pay for it one way or the other, either in higher wages or higher taxes. The politicitic idiotology of this two party nonsense is mind boggling.
     
    We are way beyond throwing the baby out with the bathwater, or cutting off our noses in spite of our faces. In fact we have reached the level of, playing three card Monty with all the cards facing up and still not being able to pick the right card.
     
  12. Subdermal

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    This is not phony patriotism. If anything, this is the feeling that personal liberties exercised in the expression of a patriotic display of the US flag should trump private property rights.

    It shouldn't. This property owner has the right to enforce the rules they deem appropriate.

    HOWEVER

    That doesn't mean that this property owner won't - or shouldn't - feel pressure. If they feel enough pressure, they may change their mind.

    That's how these things work.
     
  13. Really People?

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    They're not "true Americans" because their guidelines prohibit displays in common areas?

    Interesting...
     
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    :puke:That display happens to be an American Flag. You got something against that. If so go get on a boat to a different country.
     
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    Well, I can't very well go AWOL now, can I?

    Anyway, if it's against the guidelines of the complex where her business is located, then it's against the guidelines...

    Doesn't matter if it's an American flag or not...
     
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    You've just said that someone who believes in Mao, should plant a Chinese national flag on your front lawn over and above your personal property rights.

    If you owned an apartment complex and you had a rule against anybody displaying a flag larger than 5x7; would you chnage your mind? There are some pretty big Greatful Dead flags out there . . . You see where I'm going . . .

    That's my argument exactly. And that's what's happening in this case.

    That's a matter for the owner. Don't forget the Greatful Dead flags. And besides, this woman is just drumming up attention for herself and her business, so - it is just phony patriotism, and ; sorry but, suckers like you fall for it every time.

    Ya'can't get it both ways.
     
  17. Subdermal

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    This isn't phony patriotism. This is real patriotism butting heads with a real exercise of rights. The rest of your response isn't germane.



    :rolleyes:

    There is no 'getting it both ways'. I've already said that the property owner has the right to do this; your rant is misplaced. Also: it's Grateful.
     
  18. Dasein

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    She agreed to it. She's gonna lose.
     
  19. Dasein

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    Actually, on second thought, what we should do is make a HUGE flag that covers the entire state of Tennessee. We fly it over towed by giant planes and drop it over the entire state smothering it and everyone that lives in the state. That will finally prove we are patriotic.
     
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    It yet amazes me that we have people who sign agreements when they either rent or purchase properties that spell out what they can and cannot do. Its ok until they want to abrogate the terms of the agreement and then run to the press crying when they don't get their way.

    You sign an agreement, you have an obligation to uphold what you agreed to do. Good for the landlord.
     
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    I get it now. She lives in Germantown, so obviously she should have flown a swastika flag.:-D

    Silly Optometrist!
     
  23. Jet57

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    It is indeed phony patriotism. This is just some gal tryin' to get attention violating a contract agreement. And my analogies make pefect sense: this is argumentation; one provides examples etc in argumentation.

    The story is a silly plant.
     
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    So? It's called freedom of speech/expression. Get over it.
     
  25. BuckNaked

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    Not on private property, freedom of speech isn't absolute. Grow up!! :rolleyes: She agreed to the terms of her lease, if she felt it jeopardized her right to free speech she shouldn't have signed it. Nobody forced her to sign, she willingly allowed her speech to be limited. She is legally bound to that, and if she doesn't like it buy out her lease or get someone to take it over the property owner approves of and she will be free to purchase her own property, where her speech will be restricted by zoning laws etc... Or buy land where she can do as she likes. She is free to do so.
     

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