Mexico confirms first 2 coronavirus cases, health official says

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  1. LogNDog

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    Q - When Trump falls in love with Kim Jong Un? You don't have a problem with that? You would have been OK with Obama saying that?
    A - It's called diplomacy. It's better than giving billions to him for absolutely nothing like Carter, Bush, Clinton and Obama did.
    Donald Trump puts past presidents to shame with North Korea policies
    https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...presidents-to-shame-with-north-korea-policies
    You can thank Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton for North Korea’s nukes
    https://nypost.com/2016/01/06/you-can-thank-jimmy-carter-and-bill-clinton-for-north-koreas-nukes/
    The worse North Korea acts, the more cash aid it gets
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/nuclear-tests-could-generate-aid-money-for-north-korea.html

    Q - You would have been OK with Chelsea Clinton meeting with a Russian lawyer to get dirt on Trump? Hillary Clinton asking a foreign leader to investigate a potential political rival AND a bullshit conspiracy theory (crowdstrike)?
    A - You mean like when Clinton and the DNC paid millions for a Russian BS dossier and a promises of a non existent Russian peepee tape and presented it to the FBI as proof that Trump was a Russian agent that resulted in three years and 31 MILLION dollars of a mostly democrat contingent of agents found nothing of the sort? Yeah, I have a problem with that. I also have a problem with the structure of the original team of agents involved that sustained more damage then the people that they were investigating. Several of them are still under investigation.Trump's people met with the attorney and didn't offer her anything. The never got anything. Mueller investigated the meeting and found nothing.

    Q - You would have been OK with Obama cheating on his wife with a porn star right after their kid was born?
    A - What relationships consensual adults have are none of my concern. I never gave a damn about Clinton getting a blow job. Hell, the guy was slick enough to get a young girl to service him. I did five a damn about him lying under oath. He didn't get fined almost a million dollars and lose his license for a blow job. But as so many left leaning people said at the time, what someone does in the bedroom is their business, as long as it's between two consensual adults. It isn't our place to tell Trump and his wife what to do with their relationship. Kennedy cheated on his wife too. Clinton cheated on his wife. Harding cheated on his wife. Cleveland and Roosevelt both cheated on their wives.

    Q - Obama being implicated by his own lawyer in crimes?
    A - What crimes was it proven that Trump was involved in? How about any crimes that were committed directly by his campaign for his campaign? Implicated can mean anything. Just because the MSM arm of the DNC says Trump is implicated in something doesn't mean anything accept that they are making a campaign pitch.

    Q - Michelle Obama wearing an "I don't care" jacket while visiting kids in detention centers?
    A - Out of contest and a total spin job. This is exactly the type of petty **** that I am talking about. The jacket was a message to the media and not about immigration.

    “I often asking myself if I would not wear that jacket if I will have so much media coverage,” she said. “It’s obvious I did not wear that jacket for the children. I wore that jacket to go on the plane and off the plane and it was for the people and for the left-wing media who are criticizing me and I want to show them I do not care.”
    https://time.com/5424073/melania-trump-i-dont-really-care-jacket-message/

    Q - Obama lying his ass off over and over again?
    A - Are you really going to try and claim that Obama didn't lie his ass off? Really? (this is where some people will come up with that idiotic claim that Trump has lied 30,000 times or something like that)

    Q - Clinton being fined for mismanaging her charity?
    A - She didn't mismanage her charity? Really?

    "The email from Band reads: 'I just received a call from a close friend of (William Jefferson Clinton) who said that cvc told one of the (George W Bush) kids that she is conducting an internal investigation of money within the foundation from cgi to the foundation.

    'The bush kid then told someone else who then told an operative within the republican party.

    'I have heard more and more chatter of cvc and (Bari Lurie, chief of staff to Chelsea Clinton at the Clinton Foundation) talking about lots of what is going on internally to people. Not smart,' he wrote.
    Podesta replied calling his comments an 'understatement'.

    Band replies: 'I learned from the best. The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents ...

    'I hope that you will speak to her and end this. Once we go down this road....,' Band wrote ominously."

    Something borrowed! Chelsea Clinton 'used Foundation resources to fund her 2010 wedding to Marc Mezvinsky', according to new Wikileaks emails
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-wedding-according-new-Wikileaks-emails.html
     
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  2. Professor Peabody

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    This is discordant with your valid and serious concerns raised in every one of your prior posts. In January and early February irrational political pressure was brought to bear on the Trump Administration for it's attempts to limit transmission from the point-source. Travel restrictions are universally agreed best practices for containment, arguing otherwise or pressuring against their implementation is more than morally objectionable it can have fatal outcomes.

    FlamingLib, your concern, and one I share, is that we have people in our lives that are at risk. Your father is in his 80's and that places him at risk. I too have people in my life that are in at risk groups. I don't want to see this spread and see any attempt to delay or proscribe implementation of accepted containment strategies a threat.

    We cannot give a pass to leadership where specific and focused attempts to stop rational containment practices are motivated by political concerns.

    Trump projects an optimistic outlook while implementing appropriate measures and guidance to contain potential transmission and the Democrats scream bloody murder. They scream that his voicing a measured opinion of the viruses potential is IGNORANCE and tantamount failed governance that will allow the virus to spread, and then scream, in the same breath, that his rapid actions and practical approach intended to get ahead of the potential propagation by implementing travel and entry restrictions are XENOPHOBIC and should't be implemented.

    Insanity, politically driven with complete disregard to potential human suffering. Political avarice writ large.

    FlamingLib, your father is in my thoughts, I hope all fairs well. Keep in mind; recovery rates continue improving, the numbers progressing to Serious and Critical are dropping, total active cases continue to drop, the fatality rate for those over 80 is 14.7%. That means an 85.3% chance of full recovery from confirmed case. The odds of contracting the virus at this time with total infection rates in China, point-source specific, in mind are very long. I'm realistically optimistic, but taking precautions.

    Again, I wish you well.

    Labour
     
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    Time to build the wall
     
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    Open borders never makes sense. But when you consider what a pandemic can do, open borders is suicide.

    Our primary goal is more votes for the Democrat Party. Let nothing get in the way of that.
     
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    That's probably true. It's also true then that Trump caved to such pressure. He's in charge. The Dems couldn't have stopped him banning flights from China. My personal feeling is that Trump, xenophobe that he is, wanted to do a travel ban, but his economic advisers told him that would guarantee a market drop and recession, and so Trump didn't do it.

    Agreed.

    Trump did more than just "project an optimistic outlook". He and his admin were directly contradicting their own experts. Here's how I would have done it:

    "Americans, this virus is serious and it will almost certainly spread a lot more than it has. Be prepared for some disruptions, possible school closures, and of course it will affect the economy. It already has. With a little luck and planning, this will be like an extended flu season. Nothing to panic over. Americans are strong and resilient and we have the best disease experts in the world, and we've certainly been through worse than this. blah blah blah, here's what we're doing, etc."

    That's a bit what Mick Mulvaney was doing yesterday at CPAC.

    I would NOT have had my people out there saying this is contained with near "air tightness". I understand why Larry Kudlow said that, but he shouldn't have said it. It was premature and obviously wrong. We need to be able to trust our officials.

    I think we'll look back at what Japan did as a smart thing: close the schools immediately, so the infections come in waves instead of all at once. As a teacher, I can tell you little kids are walking disease vectors.



    That's appreciated. Thank you.
     
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    I don't think Democrats thought this through. Who is more likely to be effected: Democrat voters in overcrowded cities, or living in poverty, or homeless in San Francisco ---- or the greedy rich Republicans, Christians who put cleanliness next to godliness, and farmers in flyover country?
     
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    Everyone's going to be affected by this. 80% of Americans live in urban areas. Rural areas won't be as hard hit, but simply because there's less crowding. Not because farmers are some special breed of Americans.

    And the economic fallout will also affect everyone.
     
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    You came sooo close to getting the point and then clearly missed it with your next sentence, so I bolded the important part for you. Where do you think this will spread fastest ---- in one of your overcrowded "blue" cities, or flyover country?

    Remember how that electoral college thing bit you folks in the ass? It's kind of like that.

    While Democrats cheer for destruction they should realize there's a probability more of "their" people will be effected than Republicans.

    But Pelosi is probably busy washing her hands 10 times a day in her fancy mansion and doesn't give a sh*t as long as she can gain some political power from this. Democrat victory at all costs, right?

    Shameful.
     
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    This is a meandering post. Covid-19 is like the electoral college? Democrats "cheer for destruction"? Really? No, they're not. They're trying to get billions MORE money than Trump wanted to fight this thing (eight billion vs Trump's one billion), and Kevin McCarthy, the GOP Minority leader, is working with Pelosi on it. Good for him. And this probably is just the first round of spending on this.
     
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    The hard core Dems don't care who dies or how many people die. As long as Trump can be portrayed as failing against the virus.

    Their #1 goal is to humiliate Trump. Everything else is collateral damage.
     
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    They deeply desire death and economic disaster right now. They are simply obsessed and desperate to “get Trump” at any cost.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe every word you said is true.
     
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    America and Americans are all just collateral damage in the Democrats' power grab.
     
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    Good for you.

    You are certainly free to "believe" anything that you want to.

    Many people truly "believe" that 9/11 was an Inside Job, Aliens Landed at Roswell, Etc.

    The personal prerogative of anybody to "believe" anything is one of the greatest gifts of a free society.

    I, personally, "do no believe" the characterization referred to in the quote that you referenced.

    So, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.:handshake:

    As to the OP Topic and the cases in Mexico, I (like All Americans) hope the Virus can be contained (as quickly as possible) on the entire N.American Continent.

    Godspeed.:flagus:
     
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    :lol: The :democrat: don't give a crap about people - even their own. Their goal is to defeat Trump. Hastening the spread & perhaps the panic may stop Trump from continuing his uproariously successful campaign rallies. THAT is what they think about.

    In '09, obozo did NOTHING for 10 months during the spread of H1N1 with a thousand deaths. The :democrat: politicize everything. That's reminiscent of the Soviets. That's who they really are.
     
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    I listened to the press conference today-the media was implying that the CDC staff was being "muzzled".

    One of the CDC guys steps up to the mic and says he is not being muzzled.
     
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    The media playing up the fearmongering for the dems.
     
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    Don't forget the ebola crisis-he drug his feet for so long that states had to implement quarantines-because Obama sure wasn't.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...8db35a-5dd2-11e4-9f3a-7e28799e0549_story.html
     
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