Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model

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  1. FreshAir

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    the rumor is Trump's legal team may have released this tape, so obviously nothing illegal on this tape, BUT, by releasing the tape, they may lose attorney client privilege on other tapes
     
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    This release was most definitely by the Trump legal team now we just have to wait and see what follows. The reporter has carried their water before.
     
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    Guiliani has no credibility. He is just a paid flack at this point in his career.
     
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    Clinton was in trouble for committing perjury and obstruction of justice and witness tampering about using his power as a political official to entice and reward sexual acts by subordinate employees and threatening those who refused.
     
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    No credibility?

    LMFAO!

    Why don't you glance over his legal career before you spout off your nonsense....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani
     
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    The charges were perjury and obstruction of justice both of which failed to impeach Clinton. His impeachment was an honest to goodness political witch hunt that failed.
     
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    Not perfectly acceptable but certainly not grounds for removal from office.


    Clinton should have not used his power as a government official to entice and reward sexual favors from subordinate government workers and to threaten them it they told anyone he sexually assaulted them. He should not committed felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury but even that the Democrats said did not warrant removal from office.
     
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    When you can actually post something in rebuttal let me know.
     
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    Is there any actual evidence he used his power to entice sexual favors. I though Monica was the instigator. And it was never proven he threatened anyone. In fact didn't Paula Jones recant at one point before she was paid to bring it all back up.
     
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    Do you know what attorney-client privilege is?
    As I stated before with only a few expectations, anything you say to an attorney is protected to the end of time If they repeat it, they can face disbarment or even legal actions themselves. So Cohern can't release this tape, w/o Trump or a court given the green light. So it begs the question what the hell is Cohern doing?
     
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    We all know what Clinton did champ. It happened over 20 years ago and he was impeached and disbarred for it. How long are you going to continue to beat that long dead horse. Now we are talking about the current sleazebag in the White House. It seems that all of those phony Christians that pilloried Clinton are now progressive and liberal about these private sex sexual escapades of their new leaders as long as he pays the broads to clam up.

    Hell, in your state, they nominated a guy who allegedly used to take 14 year old girls back to his cabin in the woods, strip 'em down and parade around in his tightly whiteys and a cowboy hat and stalk little high school girls at the local malls where he was the assistant DA. Then after having a well known wrestling coach child molester as Speaker of the House for 10 years they now promoting another wrestling coach for the same house leadership position who has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit as a guy who was serving up strapping young men to his doctor buddy to be molested. I am not so sure I like the direction this new Trump dominated GOP is headed. I don't think Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater or Eisenhower would approve at all.
     
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    having your staff sign NDA's like Trump did is obstructing Justice and witness tampering to the extreme imo
     
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    Crime-fraud exception.
     
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    It's not just sex, it's adultery. Yes, some billionaires are adulterers. Some politicians are adulterers. That's between them and God, if they are religious. Their own conscience if they are atheists.

    Being a hypocrite is also not my concern...except when they are political leaders. I supported the inquiries into Bill Clinton's sex life since his lies and adultery went straight to character. As POTUS and CiC, I expect our elected leaders to be held to the highest standards. I have little doubt that because Bill couldn't keep his dick in his pants, the problems with al-Qaeda and the Taliban were not properly handled and neutralized. Why? Because we had a President without any credibility.

    Now, spring forward to the present. We have the same problem. A President whose character is so much in question that he has very little credibility. Neutralizing dangers to the United States would hampered because no one can trust him to not just be wagging the dog to cover his ass exactly as happened to Clinton.
     
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    It helps when the WH waves privilege. :)
     
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    Or we don’t care what 2 consenting adults do in the bedroom...
     
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    I have. I don't give a **** if you like it or accept it. Reality remains regardless.
     
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    We're talking about precedents and the claim that the right was being hypocritical. Trump hasn't even come close to being a Clinton and no there are LOTS here who don't know what he did or for what he was impeached. When did Trump commit perjury and obstruction of justice and witness tampering in a federal court and before a federal grand jury?

    And were those allegations known before he was nominated? Nope. Were they even proven? Nope but he was still turned away wasn't he?

    And where those allegations known before he was elected? Nope. Even before he left office? Nope.


    Jordan? Now you're just making up stuff.

    Your desperate attempt to excuse Clinton is quite telling.
     
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    Not even close.
     
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    1)I am not defending Clinton at all or attempting to excuse him, just suggesting that it is no longer an issue. He got impeached and disbarred. End of story.

    2) Perhaps the sanctimoniius nit wits that had the great idea of promoting this twice impeached judge who was obviously a total religious whack job for US Senate, should have vetted him a little. Many of these allegations had been around for years. Religious wackos are well known to be likely child molesters.

    3) Hastert was a well known pederast during his days in congress but his cohorts let him slide for years hoping he wouldn't get caught. Even after he was exposed, several GOP cohorts sent letters to the sentencing judge urging him to show leniency to their old buddy.

    4) Before I saw Jordan's disgusting display of badgering Rod Rosenstein on the House floor, I had never even heard of him before. He looked and sounded like a typical loud mouthed bully a$$hole. Then weeks before this OSU buggering scandal came to light, I did a little cursory research on him and found that his background had been in wrestling. Immediately, Hastert, another creepy wrestling coach GOP big shot came to mind. Guys who choose to spend an inordinate amount of time around sweaty boys in tights have always made me a little uneasy. Then we find that he was known around campus as the "King of the Sauna" suggesting that he spent a lot of time with a bunch of naked boys holding some sort of kangaroo court. I had the guy pegged as a creep from the get go. Now Jordan has been named in that disgusting scandal as a guy who facilitated his underlings being buggered by that scummy doctor friend of his. Maybe the doctor reminded him of the Old Coach, Denny. Looks like my instincts were right on target again.
     
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    How exactly did Clinton reward sexual favors from subordinates?
     
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    If there was enough evidence for that, Cohern woudl have already have released this tape.
     
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    Since when? Since a republican was elected President?
     
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    Straw man fail. No one said it was illegal.
     

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