Migrants heading north to vote in the election...and conservatives really believe that.

So a card showing eligibility for Medicaid or Medicare is sufficient to establish voter status?

It's not?

Oh...

 

So here's a tough question: why don't they get an ID? Too lazy to apply?

 

Neither are sufficient to obtain medical care. You're only talking about coverage. To obtain medical care, a person must provide a proper form of Identification in order to insure the patient is who they say the are.

Obviously that would not be the case in a life or death emergency, but try to walk in and get regular medical care without a proper form of ID.

 

OK...so if those cards are proper ID for Medical coverage...they ought to be good for voting...according to your logic.

They aren't though

Oh...

 

I'm sorry, I made the false assumption you could read.

A medical coverage card is not sufficient to receive standard medical coverage. Try walking into a doctors office and just saying hi I'm here, and I promise I'm the person who's name appears on the card.

 

Any actual evidence?

 

The claim that a Medicare card is not sufficient to get healthcare is news to me. Can you document that claim?

 

No. Why should I do that.

Why don't you try walking into a medical office and ask for medical care. Just hand them your Medicare card and tell them you cross your heart that you are the person who's name appears on the card. You know, the card with no picture on it.

 

You make some good points. But the economy is not a given with a power change. But I think you are incorrect on "smart candidates." They will talk local issues, but the money and their loyalty is national.

 

This forum is solidifying in my mind what I’ve been observing for years. The biggest difference between “conservatives “ and “progressives” is this: Conservatives on average have a pretty good understanding of the underlying philosophical differences between conservatism and progressivism. They also understand how practical application of these principles play out in the real world.
In contrast, progressives generally have a superficial understanding of progressivism but not enough to see unintended consequences in real world application. Furthermore, they have no understanding of conservatism. They have been told it’s evil, so it’s dismissed out of hand as something to hate and destroy.

The OP is indicative of my theory. The OP states a majority of conservatives believe a certain way when in reality they do not. The rest is derision, name calling, etc. with no substantial intellectual argument. It isn’t possible for the OP to make a cogent argument because there is minimal understanding of the subject matter from the progressive viewpoint and no understanding of the subject matter from a conservative viewpoint.

In the case of illegal immigration this is why the progressive argument is always based on emotion. Including,but not limited to, accusations of racism and voter suppression.

I’m sure there are those who disagree...

 

And the sad thing is your dog pound will believe almost any thing some disingenuous persons posts. That isn't even close to what Trump said. There is a reason he didn't post a link because it didn't happened.

 

As much as youve got proving its not true.

 

There is no reason a legal voter should not have a suitable ID.

 

But then ...what is a "suitable ID"?

Kinda sounds a lot lie the Jim Crow South

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/07/voter-id-other-countries-require/

 

If the claim is that ID is required for healthcare and that somehow relates to voter ID...why is that ID not sufficient for voting?

It;'s not you know

 

How far north? San Francisco north? Is it a municipal election year in SF? What about Chicago? Rahm issues "city ID's" to his illegal "constituents" ... are they voting in Chicago municipal elections?

 

Maybe ... because "open border" policies, like Rahm Emanuels, provide fraudulent ID's to illegals with the explicit purpose of defrauding welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid.

 

Yeah, those Jim Crow democrats were a dirty lot weren't they?

 

Suitable would be the kind everyone caries. You know, the kind they would need when accessing medical care, for example.

 

Let me clear it up for you. Conservatives believe that the Hondurans are coming to America to find a better life. They aren't thinking of voting. But conservatives do understand that the liberals support their arrival in hopes of getting future votes by providing a "path to citizenship."

 

Utter nonsense. To compare an ID to Jim crow isn't even close enough to be apples and oranges. Jim Crow was a whole series of laws that made voting not only all but impossible but much of the rest of life all but intolerable.

 

Well, the "migrant" invaders are only doing what obama told them to do.

 

No, building a wall, and sending back the families after jailing the adults that do sneak over will deter them from coming.

But you are correct we should help the Honduran, Salvadorian, and Guatemalan people, take back their country from the thugs that are ruining their lives.