So when we get testimony from first responders who say that there were explosions going off, and that the building collapse was accompanied by sounds just like one expects to hear when a building is removed by CD. and also said first responders were very surprised to see the tower(s) collapse. but then, that is INFORMATION from the "crackpot" side of the fence so who cares ..... right?
Therein lies the problem, if one then excludes certain bits because of some conclusion arrived at by looking at the "collapse" events and thinking "this could not possibly be the result of CD" then this is what you get. The 9/11 commission and the NIST "reports" constitute a huge white wash job! They have used taxpayer funds to publish a lie. if you are not outraged, you are not paying attention!
Prove CD very simple, when the wave of destruction is observed progressing downward at 2/3 the acceleration of gravity that means that the destruction observed is the result of only 1/3 of the weight of the upper mass brought to bear against the as yet undamaged lower part of the building. and NO, overloading a floor, does NOT produce the instantaneous disintegration of the whole floor, as in uniformity of destruction, not possible without human intervention.
do you understand the difference between the whole weight and 1/3 of said weight? I gave reasons, not "incredulity" now do you get it?
You gave incredulity,NOT reasons,otherwise you wouldn't be giving your erronious opinion that the collapse couldn't have continued without 'human intervention' In short,again you're wrong.
And with that, you completely side step the concept of knowing the difference between 1/3 the weight and the whole weight of a mass. what we see, is the wave of destruction accelerates down the tower(s) and given that it is accelerating, the full weight of the mass could not possibly be impressed upon the lower structure, therefore, by reasons of insufficient force, and the uniformity of destruction all the way down, it is a given that the "collapse" of WTC 1, 2 had to have been engineered events.
I sidestepped nothing,and despite being '1/3 the weight',there was still many tons of force coming down,which was sufficient. Again,you would be wrong
so with 1/3 the weight of the upper mass impressed upon the lower mass, the force would be guaranteed certain to be sufficient to not only break all the bolts/welds/rivets (etc...) but to do so uniformly so as to keep the plane of destruction horizontal. Who is dealing in incredulity here?
Two things, One: the non-uniformity of the stuff descending, the upper section can not be considered as if it were a hardened steel punch with a uniform face, it was the product of chaotic damage allegedly imposed by an airliner crash and so would NOT have a uniform face. Two: the building itself was the work of human hands and as such could not be expected to be 100% consistent, if in any given skyscraper the exact same force were applied to any given set of allegedly identical connections, the result would have to be that some connections would break first because of the simple fact that the work can not be perfect. so with two anti-uniform influences at work, why should anyone expect that the outcome of a "natural collapse" should be uniformity? and indeed why complete destruction?
You mean, when it fits the official line, their testimony is validated. When it doesn't, then they're coocoo, right?
So long as it aligns with the proper official story yes, I know. Scooter? How'd that come about? That what was melting and flowing? Scooter pies from that Dutch oven?
After I posted this the first time, the thread drifted away from the bits about the WTC "collapse" events and onto trivia. so in an attempt to re-start the discussion based on logic & reason ..... here you are......
the warped logic that the 9/11 Bush dupes around here have is that all these credible experts in their fields in the military dont matter,just what our corrupt government instituions and media tell them despite the fact they have both had a history of lying to the american people for DECADES. they cant stand toe to toe in these debates,they ignore facts,they know they can hind behind the computer knowing they cant stand toe to toe in a debate when confronted with pesky facts they cannot get around. - - - Updated - - - yep,you nailed it.thats their logic around here. only what the official line and media says is valid to them,the evidence,witness testimonys and facts dont matter to them around here.