Milo Yiannopoulos - I Hope this is of Concern to Christians

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  1. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Unnecessary comment interrupting intelligent discourse.
     
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    I can't stand him, he's a petulant, vain brat. But he MUST be free to speak.
     
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    It seems you need some context.

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    The purpose of the message is to rebut the sentiment expressed above: that people like Milo aren't protected by the 1st Amendment. Speech that offends no one doesn't need protection; the first Amendment is therefore clearly meant to protect speech that DOES offend.
     
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    1) what is his message, please? that whiny SJWs are brain dead ideologues? that men can wear sequins? what, exactly?

    2) because Milo is a vocal Trump fan, no doubt. "hate" voting bloc? how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

    3) what in flaming hell does Milo's 'lifestyle' have to do with any of this?

    4) you're not supposed to 'like' the way Milo conducts himself. that's the point. that's his schtick.
     
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    Oh yeah, he's so very hateful. Sooooo bigoted.

    it's like talking to 14 year olds who've just discovered their inner SJW :roll:
     
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    furthermore, so what?

    words express everything under the sun. good, bad, ugly, and indifferent. as ADULTS, it's our responsibility as listener to ignore or not. the ONLY time it's acceptable to censor speech is in the presence of minors.
     
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    No, but if Americans hope to be fully informed before making any decisions (as we should all be), they need to be able to hear both sides of the argument. Silencing voices we don't like is totalitarian bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and has no place in a western democracy.
     
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    you are aware that Milo is Jewish, right? non-practising, but ethnically Jewish.

    meantime, I think you need to be far more concerned for a country which would allow quite terrifying fascism to reign unchallenged. people like Milo (awful as he is) are simply working to obviate that potential. he's taking a different road to get there (cruel to be kind/tough love, etc), but he's not wrong to want it.
     
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    They're using 'hate speech' in a mocking sense. They're using the left's terminology to make the point.

    But they are absolutely right ... free speech means all speech, including things you might personally find hateful. I say you personally, because no one has the power or authority to decide what hate speech is - it's entirely subjective.
     
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    Why would I throw off Milo? But let us consider this. The day the arson, destruction and violence against others was going on, to try to shut Milo up, take away speech this faux liberal mob does not agree with, HOW safe would he have been if he had walked out in the middle and try to speak with them?

    I think they would have done as mobs tend to do and beat him senseless. If not, he would not have gotten out without at least being sprayed and punched. Ok to punch a Nazi, don't cha know? And the definition of Nazi is anyone who speaks of things these criminal faux liberals disagree with. This is what this non trump voter sees when he looks. Wonder if the GOOD faux liberals will condemn it as we expect GOOD muslims to speak out against radicals. But being objective and fair, at least some of the good muslims have spoken out against the radicals. The same is hard to say about the trump haters, and Milo haters, or just haters.
     
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    Not quite as brazen a message as this:

    http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170201172005-hate-speech-campus-sign-exlarge-169.jpg

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/us/milo-yiannopoulos-ivory-tower/
     
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    I brought up this analogy before. If a black man stands in the middle of New York City, and starts yelling "Death to the Honkies". Getting in the face of passers-by and yelling "Kill the whites", he should be stopped. This is considered hate speech, and the police would arrest him for one of two charges - 1. Incitement of a Riot. 2. Disturbing the Peace.

    In this case, it's not subjective at all.
     
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    His lifestyle and his lewd dialog were upsetting to me, and I would guess that it should be upsetting to other Christians. If you notice the title of the thread, that's who I addressed this to...

    His schtick doesn't justify making a college campus unsafe. Here's a link to an interview with a woman who explains it fairly well on FOX News. Even though Tucker Carlson attempts to put words in her mouth, she handles herself pretty well, and explains the issue. I don't necessarily agree with her actions at the beginning of the tape, but I agree with her logic, concerning hate speech. Women are the physically weaker sex, and it is wreckless and irresponsible for men to promote this.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/...rganizer-who-supports-berkeley-riots-violence
     
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    Are you saying that a sign that says, Hate Speech = Free Speech and a sign that says Hate Speech (Not =) Free Speech are the same in intent?

    What is the purpose of this sign? If Milo's speech is so innocent, why would his adherents have this sign?
    http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170201172005-hate-speech-campus-sign-exlarge-169.jpg
     
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    Some people have fits when they read different opinions on internet forums. They go completely crazy when they hear different opinions in person.
     
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    Christ dude, I told you already. Their signs are a response to the free speech is not free speech signs carried by leftist wackos.
     
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    Never heard of him before last week.

    I followed your link and watched several of the videos, the guy is clearly a good speaker and skewers Republicans and totally decimates "progressives".

    His talks are clearly "adult content", for a variety of reasons I would not want him lecturing children.

    Here is the video of him talking about 13 years old having sex with older men. In the context of the discussion, its not nearly as sensational as people make it out to be. He is gay, and he actually reflects a typical gay attitude about sex and teenagers.

    https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/833485040944156673/video/1

    I bet that the uproar is because he is so devastating to "progressives" - and because he is a gay libertarian working for Breitbart. Since he came on to the national stage last week, I'm sure the progies have been scouring the internet for anything they can use to destroy him.
     
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    As per religious teachings.

    So let Milo Speak but beware of digesting the contents.
     
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    I watch a video like this, and I'm disgusted - Milo advocating that a 13-year-old can be ripe for the picking, by older men or women. Heterosexual, homosexual - either is disgusting. If you're cool with that for your daughter or son, OK, but I'm not. This is a form of hate speech, like most of his rhetoric, in that he is advocating for a corrupt, irresponsible society; as his adherents start molesting young teens. Christians should be appalled at this message.
     
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    I don't believe Christ has anything to do with this guy, so I don't know why you mention Him. You didn't say that about the signs, but maybe you implied it. You didn't answer the question. Are these signs equal in intent and hate to you?
     
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    Christians do not support his message about pedophilia, homosexuality, gay man/boy indoctrination. And I doubt he would be welcome to spread his message in a religious forum.

    But he does not work for a church, he works for a political organization (Breitbart).

    But I suspect your outrage has more to do with the fact he skewers "progressives" and works for Breitbart, than over his sexual comments. If he was a "progressive" and skewered Trump, I suspect you would give him a pass.
     
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    Why do supposed Christians get all uptight over teens and sex?
    The do know Mary, the mother of Jesus, was somewhere between 12-14 yrs old when she gave birth to him. Yes?
     
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    What do you thing should be done about his lifestyle, since it upsets you?
    What should be done about his dialog, since it upsets you?
    Why do all Christians need to feel the same as you? Are you saying all 2B Christians should have the exact same beliefs, emotions, and feelings?
    What should be done to everyone a Christian finds upsetting?
     

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