Your side are the ones wanting to ban abortion and the very thing that could prevent it. How many people here are opposed to birth control?
The pill can prevent a FERTILISED egg from reaching the uterus, therefore killing a person, according to the right wing nuts. Your opinion is fail.
Perhaps you should go back and read the OP. You seem to have no idea about what you are posting and I don't feel that it's my responsibility to get you caught up with all the other informed posters in this thread.
What are you talking about? You seem to be losing coherency as the thread grinds on with your inane posts.
Cute. A California judge overrules the citizenry after Prop 8. State legislature have ruled by fiat for gay marriage with no regard to their citizenry's opinions. If a state's citizenry vote for gay marriage, so be it. I'll support them 100%. We need to get from imposing will to allowing for voter choice.
Oh really Einstein? In theory perhaps. From Planned Parenthood's website: Planned Parenthood suggests your analysis is theoretical. If the entire process breaks down, in theory Superman's sperm might break through Wonder Woman's defenses and fertilize an egg and fail to attach to Wonder Woman's uterus. The whole argument of banning birth control is ludicrous. Seem that all the PF lefties think the Pill is the only form available. Fail.
Birth control doesn't always prevent the ovaries from releasing eggs - this is why some women get pregnant while taking the pill, and why woman taking it continuously still get a period once in awhile.
So in essence, you're saying that the egg attached to the lining which it shouldn't have? That may not be a result of the pill failing. It is more likely that the particular woman's genetic make-up make the pill incapable of doing it's function. Failure to methodically take the pill or skipping doses open up windows of possible pregnancies also. Their is no proof from the verbiage of the initiative to ban birth control. It appears to be an attempt to protect fetuses from abortion when it becomes apparent that conception has occurred. The hyperbole surrounding birth control pills are exactly that. If the pill works according to design and the ovaries either do not release upon coitus or the mucus protects against the sperm, it makes no difference whether those two conditions fail and the lining prohibited conception as evidenced from a lack of pregnancy. Do you really think birth control would be banned on the extremely unlikely possibility that the primary functions of the pill might fail and an egg might get fertilized but not attach to the uterus?
Yes, it would appear that I do. Abortion IS infantacide. Calling it something else and pretending that because some imcompetent leftist loser judges says its legal, hardly makes it so. Taking the life of a person against that persons will is then premeditated 1rst degree murder, as it is a considered "choice" to mercilessly end the life of an innocent baby who has no choice.
Infanticide is killing a newborn. Killing a fetus is legal and it is called abortion. By your definition the death penalty is premeditated murder because the state prepares to kill someone who doesn't wish to die. So the state is guilty of mass murder. When will we hear their trials?
LOL. The 2nd was just trying to make people laugh. The 1st was genuine though. States are more beholden to the electorate than the federal government. The electorate everywhere are pissed. All right to regulate trade was given to the federal government, through the commerce clause, who in turn gave the right away to the WTO. Now, what are "elected representatives" of states supposed to do? They can't function at this point without federal government assistance, so they can't do anything to the federal government, just like the federal government can't do anything with trade with China because of the deficit with them. So their only recourse, to make it look like there is any point to government on a state level, is social laws. Tons of them. If the majority of their state electorate leans heavily a certain way, the more radical the legislation the better. Basically, if you are a liberal living in a red state, you better get the hell out. If you are a conservative in a blue state, the same is true for you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Hell, there is another thread about people being offered jail time or to go to church as a punishment. Be prepared for PF to get littered with threads on radical social legislation on a state level.
Yes I do. And I believe that any activity deemed to be dangerous would also be banned. Women wouldn't be able to drink or smoke during their pregnancy (not that they should) or do any exercise deemed risky, because if she has a miscarriage, you can bet the lifers will be wondering if she caused it. It would also ban the emergency contraception. That screws rape victims.
You are splitting hairs. Death penalty is where a person has been ajudicated by a jury of his/her/its peers and according to established laws and precidences is legally sentenced to death for a heinous crime that requires such a sentence. A preborn infant is not given such justice. Their lives are simply cruelly ripped from the womb for the express purpose of murdering it for no other reason than the inconvienience created by a previous poor and irresponsable choice of the mother.
What choice was that? The choice to have sex? You want to punish women simply for having sex with their boyfriends?
Sex leads to pregnancy. If a woman doesn't have sex, she won't get pregnant. So I assume you and other lifers wish to punish women for having sex? That is what it comes down to. Sex, and punishment for it. Why can't lifers just be honest and admit it?
And unable to prove it. We could go around on this for hours. I think it's an anti-abortion initiative. As a Californian, I'm not going to tell the people of Mississippi how to vote. It's their state and their right. My opinion says it gets voted down. In the off-chance it doesn't, the Supreme Court will vote it down. Abortion rights are Federal law. States cannot propose laws that counter Federal law.
Lifers? I guess that is being better than a deather, or, in this case, a murderer. Sex is normal, it causes pregnancy. Don't want a baby, don't have sex, or use a contraceptive to prevent it. But if a pregnancy occurs, be adult and do whats right. Not a murder of convenience.
Contraception can fail. That means a woman shouldn't have sex if she doesn't want a baby because her pill or condom might fail. So if you does have sex and gets pregnant, she should be made to have the baby. That equals punishing her for having sex.
