Mitt Romney: ‘I’m not concerned about the very poor’

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  1. expatriate

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    In Romney's defense (and I hate the sucker), he did go on to say that the very poor have a safety net.
     
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    You know and I know that there a millions of people who, for a lifetime, are not fit for work. And there are millions more who are flat unhirable no matter how you dress 'em up.
     
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    Does that mean they should be a burden to us their whole lives????????????. Perhaps "survival of the fittest" applies here.
     
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    that's real Christian of ya... if they can't keep up, let 'em starve. Who really cares, anyway?
     
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    As far as I am concerned, give them food, emergency shelter, basic medical/dental...that's it (unless they are mentally/physically handicapped then give them much more).

    If they are able-bodied and they want more then the basic necessities of existence? They can earn it themselves.

    Most people in the world would dream of getting the basic necessities of existence guaranteed.
     
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    again...how absolutely Christian of you. You do realize, do you not, that there are people who work very hard at menial, back breaking jobs for almost no money simply because they aren't all that bright. IF the "average" IQ is 100, that means that half the country is trying to get by with double digits. For them, everything is hard... but they work hard and we keep our boots on their backs and never give them a moment's comfort.

    shame on you.
     
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    There are TONS of jobs that pay just fine and do not require great intelligence.

    I did a factory job for a little while (auto assembly)...that CERTAINLY did NOT require great intelligence..and it paid VERY well.

    I also drove a truck for a while and again, that did not require great intelligence.

    Now if you are talking about mental illness....that is different - and I already said those people should be given greater help from the government.

    But the notion that below average IQ people cannot get good paying jobs is completely wrong.


    And btw - I am no Christian. Or part of any other ridiculous religious, leap-of-faith 'club'.
     
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    and...as I said... I know TONS of really poor, not very smart, not very well educated people who work more than one of those not so good paying jobs in order to try to put food on the table for their families. ANd NONE of those jobs offers healthcare. They work HARD and they work LONG hours and their quality of life SUCKS... and STILL... folks like you wanna balance our budget on THEIR backs instead of the backs or the folks who are making more money than they can spend in ten lifetimes while doing next to nothing. How American of you.
     
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    There is something called charity, you know (and btw - I gave about 10% of my net income to charity last year)?

    That is when Americans get to give as little or as much as they want to the poor directly...without government bureaucracy.

    That's American.

    Not the government taking money from people against their will to give it to people that only the government deems are worthy of that money.

    That is un-American (imo).


    If providing food, shelter and basic medical and dental is not enough for you...tough.
     
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    and libs show their compassion by highjacking around 33% of their income to pay for all their compassion

    and always want more
     
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    and some facts for you - facts I know you will ignore

     
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    If poor people had been born with big money like MItt, we wouldn't need to pay for a safety net. It's about time that poor people start to carry their own weight here in America. Screw em!!
     
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    The "Safety net" has become a King Size Sleep Comfort bed

    Over the last 40 years the US has spent over $9 trillion on programs to erase poverty from America

    Besdies libs ranting how poverty is worse then ever, a massive national debt, and a credit downgrade - what do we have to show for that time and money spent?
     
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    It may not be enough for me, but it certainly is a good start.

    there are hungry people in America. there are homeless people in America today. there are people who have no access to routine medical and dental care in America today. I am pleased that you would support expanding the safety net to fix those problems and would support raising the taxes necessary to do so.

    thanks.
     
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    the fact that we need more than a tax increase to cover the deficit is not in question. Your philosophy seems to be... if raising taxes on the wealthy won't completely fix the problem, then don't raise them at all...even though raising them would help solve the problem.
     
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    That still may be too much. Under that scenario, the underclass will continue to explode in numbers.
     
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    so you would prefer forced sterilization and starvation to control their numbers, I imagine?
     
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    Check out the charitable contributions by Republicans on their tax Returns.

    All those guys who care more for the poor gave LESS to the poor based upon percentage of income.

    Santorum was LAST..yet he is for the blue collar working guy..
    Earning a million a year as a person selling influence in Washington.
    How much did he give to ANY CHURCH ?

    Newt was better giving at least some money to Charity..but look where it went.... Foundation for the arts ? Lots of work done feeding the poor there.

    Romney of course gave almost 16 % most to his Church which in turn feeds the poor..counsels the needy..ADD in that Romney never accepted tax payer money for any government work ..his salary went back to the needy state budget...and Olympic games.

    Romney may mess up words..but look at what he DID.
    He did not expand ABORTION in MASS.
    HE DID NOT EXPAND GUN CONTROL in Mass.
    He DID NOT RAISE INCOME TAX in Mass.

    Who owns as many homes as Romney does..that rich evil dude ?

    Yep..Rick Santorum.. it's on his tax returns..

    Who says "buy American" on the trail?
    Rick Santorum... son of a coal miner..DRIVING A AUDI.
    Funny he didn't drive that around in IOWA DID HE ?
    It was a friends truck for image ..you sheep..


    If the gloves fit we must convict.
    These gloves fit Santorum to a exact match.
     
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    Under NO circumstances would I be for raising taxes to do it.

    IMO, the budget must be slashed...big time.

    The money would come from other programs.

    Besides, I am simply talking about building very large homeless shelters (flop houses) in large cities, run by the Feds. Not about providing separate apartments for each homeless person. And basic medical/dental would be just that...basic. Only inexpensive procedures and emergency services.
    If someone needed a triple bypass or expensive drugs, for example...they are out of luck.
    I would not think the price tag for this would be THAT much. A few extra billion...maybe as much as 20 or 30.

    Plus, I would cut WAY back on welfare programs and replace many of them with this 'flophouse' program...which would save a lot of money, IMO.

    As POTUS, I am not having large numbers of Americans dying from starvation, exposure or simple medical problems.
     
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    so...warehouse the poor in flop houses. Do you see any role for education and training in order to help people move upwards from those circumstances?
     
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    For those that have no mental/physical disabilities and outside of children...none.

    Governments should, IMO, provide the basic necessities of life.

    Anything else is up to the individual.

    PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


    BTW, with every American's basic needs now looked after, this would free up charities to concentrate on re-training or whatever else they wish to.
     
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    if you believe I take orders from someone of your paygrade, you are sadly mistaken ;)
     
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    I thought the people for fat according to the libs and liberal media. How can fat people starve?

    I also thought Obamacare took care of people getting "free" health care?

    Just like the "stimulus" was to put millions to work, and keep unemployment under 8%
     

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