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Voting is still voting.

 

Okay. The fact of the matter is that the technocratic institutions of the EU, the ones that matter, emplace policies that are more beneficial to the Germans, Dutch, Belgians, and Scandinavians, to the detriment of other Europeans.

You have been watching European politics since 2008, yes?

 

Again,... voting is still voting. The assumption Germany on it's own controls the entire EU... ridiculous. On it's own, it's just 29 votes, and short by a lot to get anything done. And dragging in all of northern Europe, that indeed are rich, is dragging a huge voting block. That is moving the goalpost by a lot on this.

 

They don't have to control voting at all, they simply have to be the primary lender and EU economic policy has to be such that it's goals are based on EU averages. Economic averages favor the northern countries, which are the lion's share of the EU's economic strength.

There's a reason people like Macron want reforms.

EDIT: And I keep saying "technocrats" for a reason. The EU is not a very democratic institution. It's more nuts and bolts aspects are controlled by unelected technocrats.

 

No... it's still voting is voting. Germany really can not circumvent that.
And about economics: how you run your country economically, has been set in writing already. The lending part, is done through your normal international banking deals. That Greece has to listen to Germany, has exceptionally little to do with the EU. They would have to listen to Germany, as primary lender even if they were not in the EU.

 

Whether or not Germany "controls" the EU is beside the point. What matters is that the decision making institutions in the EU, especially the ECB, make decisions in such a way that are especially beneficial to the northern Europeans to the detriment of others, especially southern Europeans.

The centrality of the German economy is what accounts for this.

 

THAT was the point, Einstein.

 

No, it wasn't. They don't need to "control" the EU through any kind of official capacity. Germany is, without a doubt, the leading country in the EU. Greece is not some minor offshoot problem, it's an indication of a deeper EU disunity, and one in which German domination is clear.

 

Germany: Halt!
Germany: Halt, I say!
Germany:Halt, or I shall say halt again!
US: Bye Felicia

 

Lol you talk like EU is in any form democratic. I give you a hint, the EU can not push anything through against the will of Berlin. On the other side Berlin is able to push things through that France or Italy dont want. And thats a good thing. They are loser countries and need guidance.

 

What need does Germany have for gas pipelines? We were told they were powering their nation with solar, wind, and unicorns. Why the change in policy?

 

Hitler felt the same way about the jews and how did that thinking turn out for him? More than a million jews were murdered by your country so you have no right to call anyone losers. It was France and Great Britain that tried to save the jews from racist people like Hitler.

Germany does not need another massive army when they have America to protect them. Germany with a massive army always leads to a world war and we don't need another one of those. The last one was pretty ugly and many innocent people were murdered. I hope you understand what Hitler did was wrong but you come off as racist so I am not sure where you stand.

 

Having own means of defence is vital for an independent country. Excuse me, your forefathers did not gathered militia because they had British Empire to defend them, they did it because they needed to be able to defend themselves.

 

You should Mark this as satire

 

No, the EU has to fall back and step back on things without forced marriage of states and countries to be what it was before. And then nothing will happen what you write here!

 

Hey you clever one ... you know that our electricity still works without Nuclear power plants and we produce too much power?
But your clever Saint Donald will maybe close natural gas power plants fired by very cheap US natural gas thanks to Fracking because a big competition for the US coal mining?

 

In psychiatry, there are examples of a split personality. If I'm not mistaken, the disease is called - paranoia....I think you are a mentally healthy person. But I think that you are misled.
To understand who is who, it is enough to remember who created the refugee problem. Who yelled at all meetings about the need to receive refugees. Who, after all, was photographed with the refugees.....However ... this is not my problem. I do not care who will sing the national anthem of Germany - the Germans or the mullah.

Is it really the case in Germany that only crazy people do politics?

I'm not familiar with the programs of German politicians. Sometimes I listen to the speeches of some politically active Germans. If I were a German, I might be interested in some of the proposals "Alternatives for Germany" on the one hand and ... for example ... Sarah Wagenkneht on the other hand. Once again I will say - some suggestions

 

In fact, the Germans want this.

 

I think that the "American ship" began to sink. And, as required by the law of nature, rats are fleeing the ship .... I think that Germany is just the beginning.

 

No, we Europeans have just figured something what these Trump Fans does not get:

He is a worthless, untrustworthy and lying type who is not only the whole world lying, but also his own voters!

 

Then let's drop the sanctions! It was mostly the idea of the USA to make them anyway, and if they do not like it anymore, we simply make with Russia normal business again, give a crap to Ukraine and Syria ... and especially about what the fool in White House wants, because this dumbass is not trustworthy anymore.

And no ... we don't need to learn Russian again, Europe can defend his own without the USA who still does nearly nothing for NATO since years but blabbers opposite and complains like an idiot around!

Will be a good idea anyway, because EU and Russia together as friends and allies are far better as NATO with USA in lead on what no one can count anymore.... and pure economically, what are these 350 million US people at least as market in comparison to the rest of the world? a drop in the water barrel of 7 billion people on this planet!

 

Sure ... Sarah Wagenknecht who failed in her own party of the Ex Communist party of GDR ... or Alternative for Deutschland who are hidden Nazis, internally disputed in the party leadership and financial backed by Moscow ... but fortunately melting down in polls from 15% to now about 7% of votes only!

If AfD would be a Russian party, Putin would have banned them from elections for sure, but as far as they act in Germany ... or like the FN in France, we can give them Russian tax money!

 

Nonsense!

The EU army is a project of cooperation and not of domination!

The 27 EU countries, UK is already not counted here, have over 1 million soldiers, a military budget over 200 billion Euros and a nuclear capacitiy thanks to France but the structures are extreme inefficient.

The first steps will be a coordinated defence spending, an EU military HQ and an European officer training. No EU country is forced to be part of it!

We already have some mixed units:

I. German/Dutch Corps some of them are in the Blücher-Kaserne (barracks)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._German/Dutch_Corps
Franco-German Brigade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-German_Brigade


Maybe in some years a Greek general will give oders to a Dutch major who commands German and Italian pilots.

 

Nonsense again!

 

As it still happens in these 2 examples of German-Dutch Corps and Franco-German Brigade that a German commands Dutch, a Dutch commands Germans and same at Franco German Brigade too