>>>MOD WARNING<<<Where's the outrage?

Besides being a stupid inflammatory lie, the bolded phrase above is
funny....IF Democrats stopped black women from having abortions can you imagine how the rabid Anti-Choice/Anti-Abortion righties would scream that the Democrats just want more voters .......

 

I'm pretty sure that the site I quoted trumps your source.....

 

I think the OP's "outrage" has petered out....

 

You all proved my point. Nothing else to say, but join you in a hearty...

WHO THE HELL CARES?

 

We have proven the OP to be a lie.

 

Denial doesn't change anything.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tnumber-live-births-NYCs-black-community.html

Showing concern would equate to admitting liberals have started us on a downward spiral. Nobody really expects any of you to be that honest.

 

16 million abortions by black women since 1973.

Amazing nobody is concerned.


http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html

 

The who the hell cares is directed at you, as in, who the hell cares what silly fiction you're trying to pass off as reality. I figured it out when you actually allowed yourself to type that black people are in danger of becoming extinct. And then you actually posted it, somehow missing the glaring stupidity of such an ignorant statement on your read-through, assuming you did one.

So take your fake outrage back to the Michelle Obama bashing threads.

 

Why should we be concerned with women making choices for themselves in how they regulate their bodies? If there was evidence some of those women were forced to have abortion, by force or threat of force, then we'd have something to be concerned about in terms of abortion.

The rest of it is a general concern with abortion in general, mainly with the circumstances that lead any woman to consider and choose abortion. These are almost always financial concerns, but sometime family shame or stress can be a part of it too. Plus any of the other scores of reasons I can't think of because I've never been a pregnant woman in a situation where abortion becomes a consideration.

But please, if you think there's some kind of conspiracy, there's a sub-forum for that. This thread is nothing but a place for you to cherry pick a statistic and then invent your own context and meaning so that you do your fake outrage dance and condemn pro-choice folks when they don't join you on the floor.

I can't even begin to tell you how many of your ilk have tried this and made fools of themselves before you made this thread and continued the tradition. Just further proof that some pro-lifers can't argue about abortion without injecting fake narratives into the mix. Doesn't really speak well to your credibility but I doubt you're concerned about that since I suspect what you really want are the other pro-lifers to come in and "like" your posts.

 

Exactly... who cares?

 

16 million fictional babies.

Trying to agree with you here... nobody really cares.

 

Somebody in NY is concerned, but they're just exaggerating, huh?

 

Seems you are the one in denial. And I am not a liberal.

 

This "somebody" is not concerned about black women or the black population. If they were, they would help them get easier access to birth control. Yet everything they do (attempts to destroy Obamacare and Planned Parenthood) makes birth control harder to access.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/republican-war-birth-control-contraception

The "black genocide" campaign is a despicable lie to advance a "pro-life" agenda by using black women.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/

 

The daily mail, or daily fail as it is better known as in the UK

You do know they have a history of selective usage of data and lying etc don't you?

You have no idea of why this happens at all, content to gain your research from places that adhere to your own preconceived ideology even though those places have been proven numerous times to be liars and/or misrepresenting research and the fact that you ignore anything that shows your opinion to be false.

 

your faux outrage is noted.

 

The fiction is in your statement as follows

"ABORTION KILLS MORE BLACK AMERICANS THAN CRIME, ACCIDENTS, CANCER OR AIDS."

No a single black American is killed in abortion.

"The possible extinction of the black race is secondary to their obsession with the bigger subject of abortion in general."
"The reason doesn't change the fact that more abortions than live births = extinction."

There is no possible extinction of the black race.

"Blacks aborting babies at a rate 4 times higher than any other race is an unintended consequence of liberal/democrats insistence on easy access abortions. "

Utter BS, Balcks are not aborting at a rate 4 times higher than any other race.

"Same with unemployment among young black males being twice that of other races."

You don't even understand what unemployment rates measure.

Add to that-that you have used two very suspect sites for your information and really the OP is a fail.

 

More sugar coating and denial. I don't mind being targeted as the bad guy. In fact, we can pretend I'm the one responsible for 16 million black babies being aborted since 1973.

It is amusing to hear liberals demand liberal sources to back up these statistics when the whole point of this thread is how liberals prefer to sweep these numbers under the rug.

Gotta wonder how long blacks will allow liberals to destroy their race. Especially since their plan seems to be working so well.

 

Do you think your comment would go un-noticed, why don't you actually respond to the items that show your failures?

So much hyperbole in you comments, where has anyone pretended that you are responsible for 16 million abortions please .. there are no babies killed in abortion despite what you may believe.

Who is demanding liberal source, all that has been done is to point out to you that the sources you have used have a history of lying and misrepresenting .. do you want examples of that .. I have already given you one example of where your source claims that 79% of abortion clinics lie in predominately black areas, when the reality is fewer than 1 in 10 do or are you claiming that the census data is a liberal source?

No one is denying the numbers, it is the association fallacy that it is a targete campaign against blacks that is being questioned and blown apart .. but then you knew that already.

gotta wonder how long it will be before black women, along with all other women, realise the conservative goal is to deny them their rights.

I see yet another bumper sticker quote from the pro-life manual 101, numerous problems with this meme though.

1. There is no data on "black children born without a father in the home."
2. There are in fact two studies relating to the information in the meme - One is unmarried black births as a percentage of all black births. The other is the percentage of black children living without a father in the home. The first one addresses births, but ignores births where the man and woman are living together but are not married. The second option, by contrast, does address living arrangements, but it includes all children up to age 18, not those who were "born" that year.

Let's look at both.

Unmarried black births as a percentage of all black births.

In 1964, according to federal health statistics, 24.6 percent of births to non-whites were considered "illegitimate," the term used for out-of-wedlock births at the time.

In 2012, the percentage of black births that were made to unmarried black mothers was 72 percent.

This is a large increase, and the more recent figure is more or less on target. However, the starting point in 1964 is higher than the post suggests. So the overall increase is more limited than the meme says. (Note: The 1964 figure was based on the "non-white" population, a category that includes Hispanics and Asian-Americans, while the 2012 figure was for African Americans only.)

So if you use this measurement, the numbers are off.

The percentage of black children living without a father in the home

These figures offer even less support for claim.

According to Census Bureau data, about 20 percent of black children in 1960 were living with just a mother. The comparable figure for 2013 is 50 percent of black children living with a mother only. (The only pre-Great Society year for which data is available is 1960.)

So this measurement, too, shows an increase. But the increase is two-and-a-half times bigger, not 10 times bigger, as you says, and it&#8217;s up by 25 to 30 percentage points, rather than the 66 points cited.

Black families weren&#8217;t the only group to see an increase in single motherhood over the same time period

Rates of fatherlessness for whites have always been lower than for blacks, but fatherlessness among whites still rose between 1960 and 2012. Six percent of white children lived in a single-mother household in 1960, a figure that rose to 18 percent in 2013. That&#8217;s a tripling, which was proportionately an even bigger percentage increase than what was observed for black children.

We don&#8217;t really know how common black single parenthood was prior to the Great Society

Douglas J. Besharov, a public policy professor at the University of Maryland, said the official data on black marriage from the early- to mid-20th century is unreliable. It was not uncommon, he said, for black mothers to tell survey-takers that they were separated, when in fact they had never been married, he said. The data for white women is similarly misleading, since many young white women got married as teens and divorced a few years later -- a "shotgun wedding" pattern that doesn&#8217;t suggest long-term stability for children.

This pattern would mean that the frequency of non-marital births among African-Americans may have been higher than what the early 1960s statistics officially indicated, and the white rate of non-marital births may have been artificially low.

"Welfare" -- the implicit target of the meme -- existed well before the Great Society

The welfare rules of the 1960s may have imposed a "marriage penalty" on recipients -- benefits that could be earned as a single person would disappear once a recipient got married. But such a pattern should have become evident well before the Great Society.

" &#8216;Welfare&#8217; was part of the New Deal in the 1930s," said Timothy M. Smeeding, director of the Institute for Research on Poverty at the University of Wisconsin. "It was designed for widows with kids who didn&#8217;t qualify for Social Security, but it soon became a single-parent program for divorcees and later unmarried mothers."

Correlation does not equal causation

Just because rates of fatherlessness rose after Johnson and the Great Society doesn&#8217;t mean they caused the increase. Lots of other factors were at play.

The broader social currents of 1960s "liberalization" -- more permissive sexual mores, easier divorce laws and greater financial independence due to rising rates of female employment, for instance -- did play a role in higher rates of single-motherhood for all races, but if you define &#8216;the Great Society&#8217; as the things Johnson did, then there was very little impact on single motherhood rates.

Conclusion

There&#8217;s no data to back up the meme&#8217;s specific claim, but the most applicable statistics show an increase in black fatherlessness that is more limited, and the rise might have been even more modest still if the early-1960s data had been more reliable.

In addition, the focus on Johnson and the Great Society is likely a red herring, since broader, societal factors are believed to have played a major role in rising rates of single-parenthood -- not just among blacks, but also among whites.

The meme is an unsupported, factually incorrect fail.

 

Every mega post you write underscores the desperation to gloss over this issue. First you claim it's a lie, then you try to convince us 16 million dead fetuses aren't really human... then you try to twist the truth by blaming Republicans for the sorry state of blacks in America.

The more you try to divert attention, the more you prove my point.

good job.

 

So you aren't outraged either .....

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Yes, I'm sure to YOU, showing all the facts about why you are so totally wrong by every poster in this thread IS trying to "divert attention"....



You even refuse to answer those "inconvenient " questions like WHERE is the proof that black women are being forced to abort??? Should be a simple thing to do if you are right.....

 

Interesting piece from BET. Appears they prefer to point the finger of blame in yet another direction.

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WHY ARE BLACK ABORTION RATES SO HIGH?
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Rachel Jones, from the Guttmacher Institute, told(*)The Daily Caller, “There’s no definitive research that’s actually been able to answer that question.” She added, “We just do know that African-American women, including African-American teenagers, just have more pregnancies."

And naturally, these types of findings onlyhelp rile up the pro-life movement,(*)who tend to use this type of information to try to convince us that abortion is genocide in our community and that Planned Parenthood is the devil. But before we jump on that bandwagon, let’s take a step back. Yes, these high rates of abortions are alarming. But why are we so shocked? Yes it’s complicated, but when it comes to the consequences of unprotected sex, Black women suffer the most.

Forty-eight percent of Black female teenshave been diagnosed with an STD; Black women ages 15 to 19 had the highest rates of chlamydia and gonorrhea and we are also(*)20 times more likely(*)to have HIV than our white female counterparts.

So it’s pretty obvious that abortion rates would be disproportionately high as well.

And so if we want to lessen these racial reproductive health disparities, we have to stop thinking that abstinence-only is the answer.

We must do a better job at educating femaleand(*)male teens about safe sex and the importance of using condoms(*)and(*)birth control together as a means to protect them from unwanted pregnancy,(*)STDs(*)and(*)HIV/AIDS. We have to create a health care system that gives us access to affordable birth control, STD testing, counseling and treatment. Most important, we must address the gender inequality and violence that puts too many young women at risk for unprotected sex in the first place.

In the end, these recent abortion findings shouldn’t spark outrage that Black women’s wombs are dangerous places for babies. We should be livid because not enough is being done to protect our wombs and our reproductive health.

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http://www.bet.com/news/health/2013/04/01/commentary-why-are-black-abortion-rates-so-high.html

 

Good to see you learning something and back peddling fast. This post of yours has nothing to do with your OP title.....which has been proven false.

 

Really? Black abortions have nothing to do with the OP?

It's already been determined you don't have a problem with black abortion rates 4 times higher than other races, so what's your point for rejoining the discussion? To complain about anybody else being concerned?

 

OK, it wasn't your ridiculous misleading and really silly title...my mistake... it was your irrelevant lead in sentence, """ABORTION KILLS MORE BLACK AMERICANS THAN CRIME, ACCIDENTS, CANCER OR AIDS."""

...has been blown to bits. No abortion has killed black Americans....as subsequent posts have proven.



Why are you outraged that black women have to the right to get an abortion?

You have NEVER answered that question.


Black women are NOT forced to get abortions so what is there to be outraged about?

you have NEVER answered the question.