More Lies: "I never said you could keep it"!

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? You do not believe it's Obamacare that causes Insurance companies to cancel policies left and right? Yes, no?
     
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    What's really odd is that he can't seem to accept the fact that his words are on tape. There are at least 27 soundbytes out there w/him saying the same thing over and over and that fact doesn't mean a thing to him....
     
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    f_socialism New Member

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    Like it or not liberals, your man Obama did indeed promise that people could keep their plans and people really are losing their plans.

    The liberals really are in denial. Many of them on this forum coming across like children with their fingers in their ears saying la la la la la, I can't hear you.

    Face it liberals, your man Obama lied to get your support. If you had even a shred of integrity, you would be bashing Obama for doing so.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is the mark of true hypocrite narcissist.
     
  5. Dune

    Dune New Member

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    Yeah, Mitt did that a lot too.
    Obama is right of Reagan, but what is the point conservatives? Mitt would have been a true fascist, by his own reckoning. You do know that corporations are people don't you?

    Of course they are.
     
  6. SMDBill

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    It's almost as if people feel the attack is on the person, not the plan. The plan is proving itself horrible and it was sold via lies so what should people feel in their eyes? Just believe that it's best for everyone and there won't be any more lies? Just accept what he meant and disregard what he said over and over? People were given congnitive thinking abilities for a reason, but some just want to protect him at any cost to their own conscience. I just don't get how they can still claim no lies were told. As if this was the only topic/issue we've been lied to? But the apologists just keep on coming.

    After the fact we'll all agree he lied anyway, so can't we just cut to the chase? Just like we did with Reagan who didn't know about Iran Contra, just like we did with Bush and no new taxes, just like we did with Clinton (all of 'em) and just like we do today with Bush lying about WMD and other topics. Why can't we all just agree today that the lies are the lies? Why wait until 2017 to agree when we know that's where it'll end up anyway.
     
  7. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    WOW, That really is amazing.

    10 signs for spotting a sociopath
    #1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a "glow" about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction. They often appear to be sexy or have a strong sexual attraction. Not all sexy people are sociopaths, obviously, but watch out for over-the-top sexual appetites and weird fetishes.

    #2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do. They are unbound by normal social contracts. Their behavior often seems irrational or extremely risky.

    #3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very "successful" sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.

    #4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.

    #5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.

    #6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous. This is why many of the best-known serial killers who successfully evaded law enforcement were sociopaths.

    #7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.

    #8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic. They are expert storytellers and even poets. As a great example of this in action, watch this interview of Charles Manson on YouTube.

    #9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.

    #10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it! Charles Manson, the sociopathic murderer, is famous for saying, "I've never killed anyone! I don't need to kill anyone! I THINK it! I have it HERE! (Pointing to his temple.) I don't need to live in this physical realm..."

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html##ixzz2jnd6Iqjp
     
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    If you had even a shred of integrity, you would still be bashing Romney for doing so. Romneycare was his idea afterall, but don't let the facts bother you.
     
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    Off topic much?

    Mitt was a liar as well, not really disputable. But what's the point? Or were you just trying to deflect? It's not a right/left thing. It's a truth/honesty thing.
     
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    That is the truly depressing side of this. Honesty has no place amongst many. They stand for a liar, much like they stood for Slick Willie. The political calculus, the meta picture, trumps personal ethics.

    We are done. America ends.
     
  11. SMDBill

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    Holy cow, how do you justify one man's lies with the creation of a similar plan by another man? Not one person came here claiming Mitt never lied but Obama did. Only you brought him into the conversation and have attempted to steer it off course with it.

    If I just admit openly that Mitt Romney lied will you let us move onto the real issue? I admit it, just as I did above. He was caught and he paid a high price for it. Now can we talk about THESE lies that pertain to the thread?
     
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    It is the FORCED COMPLIANCE with the ACA's mandated coverages that is causing plans to be cancelled.

    Because no one can figure that out...right? Duh.


    Obamacare has accomplished what the greatest insurance salesmen in history could not: to FORCE Americans to buy excessive health insurance coverage, that they neither want nor need.

    The ACA is the greatest boon to the insurance industry in its history, with a complete screwover of the America People.


    Do your feet ever get sore?


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    You got it all wrong on the we thing. Obama isn't trying to shift blame by saying we instead of I. The (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is starting to believe his own hype and using the plural when referring to himself rather than the singular just as royalty used to.


    God he sucks ass.
     
  14. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    pssst... Romney aint president, and he didnt lie to the American people.
     
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    He's not the only one. A single episode of the Daily Show makes that pretty clear.
     
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    So if the insurance company is cancelling the policy - Then it is not the ACA taking it away is it. Can't have your cake and eat it
     
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    Mitt was simply being Mitt. He really wanted to be everything to everybody. So he told everyone whatever they wanted to hear even if it was the exact opposite of what he told another crowd the previous day. His being against Obamacare was classic given it was his freakin' plan.
     
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    Romney care is NOTHING like the ACA, and the ridiculous pretenses otherwise just highlight the LOW INFORMATION of the Obamapologists making that claim.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    The insurance companies are cancelling them because those policies dont meet the obamacare guidelines.
     
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    obama has proven himself a scumbag and his supporters have egg on face! hahaha!
     
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    How can anyone defend this? he said it. Just admit it and move on. These wacky liberals really are nuts.
     
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    What school of logic did you graduate from? Or do you like the semantics more than the facts?
     
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    Woohoo!! Amazing "Word Dance"!!

    Let me try:
    It wasn't the Nazis who murdered the Jews.. it was the GAS CHAMBERS!!

    Got it!!

    Keep going!! Reading your posts is like watching "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?", with all the NONSTOP DANCING....
     
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    The one that says causality has be established
     
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    This is true, to a point.

    But clearly many Americans were fooled by that statement into believing that their insurance policies wouldn't in fact be in violation of the ACA and thus be cancelled by the insurance companies.

    The ACA in fact took away the insurance companies ability to offer these policies.

    After doing some reading I changed my opinion on this subject, I used to think that the ACA wasn't responsible here, but the truth is it is, and I have to believe Obama knew many policies were going to be voided by this law when he made those statements.
     

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