More than 50K Americans Sign Letter Supporting Dr.Carson's Stand Against Sharia Law

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  1. supaskip

    supaskip Well-Known Member

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    That's all well.... but I haven't heard any proposals of "Sharia law ruling the land". Having some lower religious courts is something completely different [and something that already exists].

    So what, exactly, is the point of this letter? Is it just that people don't understand? Or is it completely theoretical? Maybe a "Martians should not be allowed to become US citizens" letter is just as relevant because this is all make-believe. Sharia would never become law in the US unless the US was a heavy majority of Muslims, IMO, and that's unlikely.
     
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  3. Alwayssa

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    Christian values is not a zero sum game. Second, the values we instill is based principally on the Constitution, which is NOT a Christian document. Second, Christianity is not the only religion that does not agree with abortion. Islam, Judaism, Shintoism, and Buddhism does not generally agree with abortion. All of the religions also have values on who should and should not be killed. Even among Christians do not believe in the death penalty while others who believe in Christianity do believe in the death penalty.
     
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    Why are we even worrying about "taking a stand against Sharia". What a pointless fake boogeyman.

    This reminds me of that "campaign" a couple years back where all the righties were posting things about squirrels and Obama.
     
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    Actually no, it's Article VI that disallows a religious test for a public office.
     
  7. toddwv

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    Well, it appears that you're not all that familiar with US history.
     
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  9. WillReadmore

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    What makes you think that our laws on killing each other have ANYTHING to do with religion?

    You bring up the ten commandments, but those certainly do NOT parallel our law. We have no law on there being one god. In fact, there are no laws corresponding to at least 5 of the 10.

    In fact, the basic advancements of the US government as shown by the constitution have NOTHING to do with what it says in the Bible. The bible is about DUTY of individuals. Our advances have to do with RIGHTS of individuals. Then, we added stuff like separation of powers, etc. NONE of this came from the bible. It came from splitting government from religion and progressing on a secular path. And, there is NO WAY of imposing Sharia law on anybody, because we have those rights.


    This whole Sharia law thing is pure BS instigated by a desperate campaigner who has nothing to say and thinks the US population is too stupid for words.

    And YOU fell for it!

    Don't feel too bad - 50,000 others fell for it, too.
     
  10. dixon76710

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    Disallows the GOVERNMENT from implementing any such test. Individuals are free to implement any test they like. Revealing that you people want to use a Constitutional provision that restricts the government, to restrict the people.
     
  11. LeeroyHim

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    Uh I never said that. Did you pay attention?

    I said the 1st amendment give Carson his OPINION. So people quoting article VI are nuts because that's not what he was talking about.
     
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    Giving his opinion does not negate people criticizing that opinion either.

    And yes, his clarification also said that he would vote for a Muslim if that Muslim disavowed his Muslim religion.
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    I'm curious what you mean by that.
     
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    "My kingdom is not of this world", "render unto Caesar, that which is Caesars", "obey all authorities instituted among men" and all of that. There is nothing within Christian doctrine hat would join them together. The Protestant reformation used the text of the bible to demonstrate the illigitimacy of the divine rul of the Catholic Church. Thomas Paine in his Pamphlett "Common Sense" used the text of the bible to demonstrate the illigitimac of the divin rul of monarchs and the legitimacy of government of by and for the people.
     
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    Just what I said. THE GOVERNMENT cant prevent a Muslim from running for President. Ben Carson can choose not to advocate for a Muslim President all he wants. The Constituional provision is a restriction upon the government, not the people.
     
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    Sorry, I misread your post.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I misread his post.
     
  17. fiddlerdave

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    No "Oh, wait". Gays and women protest Isis and Sharia Law.
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...-boycott-over-brunei-laws-20140509-story.html
     
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    You have my handle and underneath a bunch of stuff that I did not say.
     
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    Really? That's your response? OK, then you explain it, genius.
     
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    OH, so the other 5 aren't applicable, so therefore we just move on. How convenient.
     
  22. dixon76710

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    "My kingdom is not of this world", "render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's", "obey all authorities instituted among men" and all that, Im not sure what a Christian theocracy would even look like. Christianity doesn't even involve itself with government. IN CONTRAST to Islam that dictates an Islamic government and the law to be applied. And 1300 years of Islamic Caliphates applying Islamic doctrine as law as precedent.
     
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    No there isn't. Your religious notions about the morality of abortions or marriage traditions are irrelevant and forcing them on others is the very definition of a theocracy.
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    I seriously apologize -

    Somehow the threading got screwed up. I should have looked into what was going on rather than taking the system's word for it.
     

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