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  1. EvilAztec

    EvilAztec Banned

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO6JHjHuW1w&annotation_id=annotation_725298&feature=iv"]Бабки знают всё! (Babkee Hard Dubstep Edit) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  2. EvilAztec

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_0j_38Tda0"]Ivan Kupala- Kostroma/ Иван Купала- Кострома - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERlYEmVDopc&feature=related"]Иван Купала - Молодость (russian music) - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3WpejaHR9I&feature=related"]Ансамбль СЛАВЯНЕ - На Ивана Купала (pagan tradition) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  4. Potap

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    "Alisa" - "The Sky of Slavs"

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQiZXl952Ng&feature=related"]группа Алиса - небо славян - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  5. janpor

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    I don't want to be rude, y'all...

    But the Russian alphabet sucks! :mrgreen:

    I'm sure modern-day Russia has a lot to offer culturally speaking, but it looks like a Sci-Fi language.

    For instance, "Russian alphabet" written in Russian is "русский алфавит" = ???

    However, "Russian alphabet" pronounced in Russian is "rússkij alfavít" = :thumbsup:

    At least this is recognizable!

    Russian alphabet, Russisch alphabet, Alphabet russe, Alphabeto ruso -- and in Russian itself: rússkij alfavít.

    Y'all need to work on your PR!
     
    janpor, Oct 20, 2011
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  6. EvilAztec

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    It is quite normal language and alphabet.
    Why would he need a PR?
    Who wants to learn speak'n'write it will do, who do want to not teach will not.
    Alphabet more powerful than your Latin :mrgreen:
     
    EvilAztec, Oct 20, 2011
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  7. Flag

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    Russian alphabet is much more confuse.

    ч ц ж ъ ь

    make me the most confuse
     
    Flag, Oct 20, 2011
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  8. LenaSrb

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    There are many Slavic countries who are using variation of Cyrillic alphabet, same as Russians do. I equally use both, Latin and Cyrillic 'cause both are official alphabets in my country.
    ..and that's the beginning and THE end of what is recognizable to you, just because word Alphabet (alphavit(a)) has a root in a Greek language.
     
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  9. EvilAztec

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    So more specifics for pronunciation.
    Each letter has its own particular sound.
    Every character except "ъ" "ь"
    Need for pronunciation transcriptions.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language
     
    EvilAztec, Oct 20, 2011
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    There's nothing confusing in it and almost every letter/sound can be written in Latin as well.
    - ч (CHoice)
    - ц (BerkoviTZ)
    - ж (Bon VoyaGE ; Julian AssanGE)

    last two you listed are not actually sounds but are used to 'explain' how to read previous letter (hard pronunciation or soft one).

    I hope this helps for now and I'm sure Russians will find a way to explain it much better.
     
    LenaSrb, Oct 20, 2011
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    Got it much better now.:-D
    thanks
     
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    Sorry janpor, so far we have failed to find letters in your limited latin alphabet
    for щ, ч, ж, э, ы, ш, ц, й.

    Ж sounds a bit different for me.
    Still can't match something for ы or й in latin.
     
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  13. Potap

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    I think it is necessary to be a linguist or at least to know Russian language to do such statements. Russian alphabet ( more correct cyrillic alphabet) is created on the basis of Greek and latin alphabets specially for slavic languages and in the greatest degree suitable for slavic languages. latin alphabet is extremely inconvenient for Russian because it does not reflect some sounds which exist in slavic languages. Poles and Czechs use latin alphabet and they are forced to add various dashes and commas to letters, but it does not make latin alphabet more convenient.

    One more argument against latin alphabet. Russians more than thousand years write on cyrillic alphabet, it means that all books written in Russian for the last one thousand years will become unreadable. Do we need it? Finally cyrillic alphabet is very similar to latin one and it has a half of common letters. So what's the good to search for additional beauty. Suggest Greeks or Jews to change alphabet. :mrgreen:
     
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    э-z
    й-y

    Always read things this way :omg:

    your limited russian alphabet doesnt have
    j w q ç


    fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
     
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  15. KGB agent

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    Personally I would describe it like "hmmm"+e.
    vowel
    й- much more soft j.




    Can't see real difference between w and v.

    :ignore:
     
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  16. Potap

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    ч - ch
    ц - ts
    ъ - specifies hardness of a consonant.
    ь - specifies softness of a consonant.
     
    Potap, Oct 20, 2011
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  17. EvilAztec

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    Vot chego mne ne dano.Tak eto ob'yasnyat lyudyam prostie veschi.
    Spasibo Komradam.
    Вот что мне не дано,так это объяснять людям простые вещи.
    Спасибо комрадам.
     
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  18. Potap

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    Learning alphabet.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrQ8qLaels&feature=related"]Алфавит для самых маленьких - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Potap, Oct 20, 2011
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6fSNBYxYgk"]Владимир Кузьмин - Пристань твоей надежды. 1985 г. - YouTube[/ame]


    Льёт ли ливнем июль или вьюжит февраль,
    Ищет пристань свою твой усталый корабль.
    В море долгих ожиданий не спуская парусов
    Ищет он меж островов берег своих мечтаний.

    Пристань твоей надежды ждёт меня,
    Пристань твоей надежды на горизонте.
    Сквозь туманы расстояний ты не видишь мой свет,
    Ты не слышишь мой голос зовущий нежно.

    Если песня моя до тебя долетит,
    Ты увидишь, моряк на своём пути,
    Тотчас в крылья превратятся голубые паруса
    И взметнувшись в небеса к берегам родным помчатся.

    Пристань твоей надежды ждёт меня,
    Пристань твоей надежды на горизонте.
    Сквозь туманы расстояний ты не видишь мой свет,
    Ты не слышишь мой голос зовущий нежно.

    Пристань твоей надежды ждёт меня,
    Пристань твоей надежды на горизонте.
    Сквозь туманы расстояний ты не видишь мой свет,
    Ты не слышишь мой голос зовущий нежно.
     
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    I have seen й described and j but I never head about those hmmmmmmm :omg::omg:



    water is different from vater
     
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    No match for the first one, indeed...

    - й (Yo-Yo) but in our Latin version we use letter J and you shouldn't try it in English or you'll risk that J to be read as in Jelly :mrgreen:
     
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    LOL how did you came up with that one :mrgreen:?

    Here you have it @ ~ 1:30 and many more places
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaVzOtzeNU"]eto vse - Ð(*)то все DDT - Юрий Шевчук (Jurij Szewczuk) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Flag, Oct 20, 2011
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  24. Potap

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    З can be confuzed with figure 3. The letter Э looks differently. It sounds like English A in the words: fat, mad, bad, map.
     
    Potap, Oct 20, 2011
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    Yeah. ы is quite complicate. But polish and czech can.

    э At least for me sounds like the latin "e", like экскурсия.

    Да, я учу русский язык.

    And how I've learned the sound й is just a difthong "i".
     
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