Mourning the wrong person

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. BrunoTibet

    BrunoTibet Banned

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    Your so petulant that people can't seem to stop talking about him that you make a thread dedicated to talking about him.

    I'll let you dwell on that for bit, sunshine.
     
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    more made up crap from the right.
     
  3. LibChik

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    I'm not a fan of his religion...but I respect his right to believe it.

    The guy was not known to be a drug addict. He was definitely ill and may have been taking something for that. But everyone that knew him, knew him to be a health nut who never took drugs.

    I get that someone may automatically assume that black artists like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson died of overdoses, they were habitual drug users. But someone bashing this guy for drug use which he WAS NOT known for just strikes me as really disrespectful and really bigoted.

    I totally understand people not being fans of his...to each their own. I wasn't an Elvis or Beatles fan...but I respect that people that were fans feel deeply about their contributions and accomplishments and I feel the same way about Prince.

    So starting a thread to bash this guy who was an amazing talent whether or not you like his music is literally the biggest (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)baggery I've seen in a while.

    If you don't like him...shut up and let other people mourn his passing.
     
  4. LibChik

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    lol...I like people that buck social convention and push the envelope. Prince was timeless.
     
  5. Serfin' USA

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    To be fair, I like some musicians that do that as well. My favorite band is Florence + The Machine, and Florence herself is very strange but very talented as well.
     
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    I would argue that all artists are a bit insane....its kind of part of the process. I didn't know the guy obviously but the people that did had a lot of good things to say about him.

    All I know is that I loved his music...always have, always will. And a lot of people feel the same. The guy had a massive fan base and his brilliance will be missed by a lot of people.

    Prince's family needs to have a complete autopsy report and they'll have it. If he died from prescription drugs, its would be a terrible, terrible shame.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I once was the husband of a JW and to be frank, it creeped me out.

    That said, I will wait for an autopsy before commenting on cause of death.
     
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    In what way did Prince "buck social convention and push the envelope"? Other than changing his name to a symbol (and then back again).
     
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    Why should I mourn them. They are not defending my freedom they are simply inforcing a regime change because our leadership doesnt like them. Sorry but mqybe we should elect better leadership so our soliders are not treated like death squads.
     
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    In what way didn't he? Writing slave on his face well in his battle to break free with Warner Brothers, the battle was also the reason for his name change. Helping and being active in the MPLS community well rejecting the praise for doing it, which is much different than many of the fame whores who only do it for the publicity. He always pushed the envelope, that's who he was and these are just a few examples.
     
  12. fifthofnovember

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    Okay, so he had a dispute with a record label. Not exactly groundbreaking.

    What the hell is that? I googled it, and all that came up was Multiprotocol Label Switching. Are you saying he was a pioneer in telecommunications?

    Hmm, not seeing much envelope movement from here.
     
  13. Balto

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    In that case, we would be constantly hearing about the names of fallen soldiers, and we would become desensitized to their demise. You really want that to happen?

    I'm still trying to figure out how Prince was such a legend.
     
  14. dw3421

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    Minneapolis community. Are you serious, you googled it?
     
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    Again 7 Grammies, Oscar awards, over 100 million records sold, taught himself how to play 12 instruments before he was 13 years old, numerous songs he wrote for other artists that hit top 10 and he was also inducted into the rock & roll hall of fame. By music standards that makes him a legend.
     
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    One thing Prince did, and I'm one of the last to praise anyone out of the pop genre, is that he actually showed an effort. It's not like Michael Jackson, who was a complete fluke.

    A lot of instruments are interchangeable. You can play guitar, you can play bass. You can play bass, you can play guitar. You can play piano, you can play xylophone, and vice versa. So on and so forth. All Michael Jackson did was lip sync to backing tracks and touch himself live.
     
  17. fifthofnovember

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    Yeah. It might surprise you, but people to who don't live in or near Minnesota, MPLS isn't something commonly heard. Okay, so he helped people from his hometown. Good for him. I guess not being a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag might be groundbreaking by pop standards, but that's not setting the bar very high, and I don't see how it advanced music. We are talking about pushing the envelope in music, right? Not just in social awareness?
     
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    Not actually understanding music and musical ability is such a tragic handicap.
     
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    Jackson was strictly pop ,but prince was way more versatile, his music was a genre of it's own pop/funk/sol/rock & roll/R & b/synth. Thre is maybe 20-25 musicians ever who sold 100 million albums and Prince sold close to 150 million worldwide. As far as the instruments he didn't just play them as a hobby. On his 1st 2 albums he played and recorded every instrument by himself. Meaning he would record the drums, go back and record the bass, go back and record the piano, go back and record the vocals etc ect.....
    Much more talented than Jackson imo.
     
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    It wasn't the helping people it was the refusal to take credit for it. To you who pushed the envelope musically?
     
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    Mpls isn't something commonly heard but anyone who knows anything about Prince knows he' from mpls so it truly does show you know nothing about him or his music. If I was so ignorant to a topic or a persons life I wouldn't try to discount them. If you didn't know he was from mpls how the hell would you know if he pushed the envelope or not?
     
  22. fifthofnovember

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    I knew he was from Minneapolis, I just didn't know anyone called it MPLS. When you first said it, I honestly thought it was some kind of disease.
     
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    Very admirable. But it doesn't speak to his art, just his humanity.

    J.S. Bach. The Beatles. Buddy Rich. Chuck Berry. Johnny Cash. Pink Floyd. To name a few.
     
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    You don't have to have been from 50 years ago to have pushed the envelope.

    How about N.W.A., Nirvana, Prince and Madonna?
     
  25. fifthofnovember

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    I would say that most of those pulled the envelope. NWA pioneered one of the worst genres ever, Nirvana gave us (*)(*)(*)(*) poor vocals and meh musicianship. Madonna? What did she advance, sluthood? And Prince, well I'm still waiting to hear an apparent fan explain exactly what it was that he did other than be a "righteous dude".
     

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