MSNBC medical contributor tells Americans to start wearing masks again after uptick in COVID hospita

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  1. AFM

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    How many healthy children have died from Covid? Name some.

    Children have died from the vaccines.

    Viruses are transmitted via aerosol particles from breathing. Masks don't stop those. Therefore masks don't protect or prevent. Trust masks at your own and your own loved ones peril.
     
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    You're asking someone else if they're "still figuring it out?" :roflol:
     
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    Do you understand the difference between a P100 respirator like this...

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    ... and a surgical mask? I doubt it.
     
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    P100 respirators? Those don't stop particles?
     
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    If they are glued on they will stop aerosol particles which carry viruses. If not glued air leaks around the edges spreading virus or allowing virus to be breathed in.
     
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    Most of us know several people who have or had long covid, or what they report as "it really knocked me out" and "I'm still 100%." The impact of long covid on the economy is undoubtedly understated.
     
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    Simple tests can provide assurances of a good fit.
     
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    Who did I quote? So it's now obvious. auiqs.jpg.gif
     
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    It's amazing how what I have stated can be so wildly misconstrued. Hmm, let's go back a bit in time.

    So how does your response relate to the above, I'll simplify it for you even further. Out of all the healthcare professionals and their associates whom I've encountered in this experience, not all were wearing masks. This demonstrates the inconsistencies with the mask madness among them. DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE NOW?

    How many of the general public do you see wearing these types of masks YOU have illustrated, oh, it's only you is it?
     
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    Masks are Harmful: 17 Ways That Masks Can Cause Harm

    1. Medical masks adversely affect respiratory physiology and function
    2. Medical masks lower oxygen levels in the blood
    3. Medical masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood
    4. SARS CoV-2 is armed with a “furin cleavage site” that makes it more pathogenic
    5. Medical masks trap exhaled viral (and other) pathogens in the mouth/mask interspace, increase viral/infectious load, and increase the severity of disease
    6. SARS CoV-2 Becomes More Dangerous When Blood Oxygen Levels Decline
    7. The furin cleavage site of SARS CoV-2 increases cellular invasion, especially during hypoxia (low blood oxygen levels)
    8. Cloth masks may increase the risk of contracting Covid-19 and other respiratory infections
    9. Wearing a face mask may give a false sense of security
    10. Masks compromise communications and reduce social distancing
    11. Untrained and inappropriate management of face masks
    12. Masks Worn Imperfectly Are Dangerous
    13. Masks collect and colonize viruses, bacteria, and mold
    14. Wearing a face mask makes the exhaled air (respiratory plumes) go into the eyes
    15. Contact tracing studies show that asymptomatic carrier transmission is very rare
    16. Face masks and stay-at-home orders prevent the development of herd immunity
    17. Face masks are dangerous and contraindicated for a large number of people with pre-existing medical conditions and disabilities

    It's interesting don't you think why there are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo many variants of COVID, not only caused by the EXPERIMENTAL SHOTS but also by prolonged wearing of masks?
     
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    Very little information is being suppressed. A lot of misinformation is being promulgated by various sources, however.
    "No risk?" :roll:
    Consider:

    "Overall, the risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine."

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970
    Bing returns:

    "I have searched the web for instances of a young man dying of myocarditis he contracted following a COVID-19 vaccination. I found some news articles that reported such cases, but they are very rare and not conclusive. Here are some of the articles I found:
    • A 28-year-old Bangladeshi man died of myocarditis, or heart inflammation, 21 days after receiving his first dose of the Moderna/Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine in June 2021. This is the first death related to the COVID-19 vaccination locally, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in a statement on Friday (1).
    • A 26-year-old plumber from New Zealand died from myocarditis, a rare side-effect of the Pfizer vaccine, less than a fortnight after receiving his first dose in November 2020. A six-day inquest into his death is being held in Dunedin District Court (2).
    However, these cases do not prove that the vaccine caused the myocarditis, as there could be other factors involved. The risk of myocarditis is significantly higher after COVID-19 infection than after a COVID-19 vaccine (3). Therefore, getting vaccinated is still the best way to protect oneself and others from the serious complications of COVID-19."

    (1) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-s-death-from-heart-inflammation-likely-related-to-covid-19-vaccine-jab-coroner

    (2) https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/473781/man-who-died-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccine-not-warned-about-myocarditis-risk-inquest-told

    (3) https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases
     
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    Because the vaccine doesn't provide absolute protection.
     
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    AHAHAHAHA:roflol:
    So when did you realise this?
    So it's not perfect...
    It doesn't protect
    It doesn't stop transmission.

    What's it good for then? Oh, that's right, this.

    Below is Girardot’s map of the harm based on where the particles hit upstream, concentrated downstream and disseminated. It “attempts to explain the variety of ways a bolus of vaccine particles can harm the body (read the endothelium) via varying journeys down the vascular system in the first-minute post-injection.”

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    ...and don't forget that those mRNA shots you hold in high regard also do the following, @LangleyMan

    How Do COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines Harm the Body and What’s the Treatment?

     
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    I don’t know of anyone with long covid.
     
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    A good fit isn’t good enough.
     
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    Does this mean you're unable to keep up your end if a discussion?

    There's plenty of evidence produced by independent sources you're choosing to dismiss because it doesn't support your bias. Why are you so heavily invested in the vaccine not having a positive impact?
     
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    What you fail to comprehend is that my arguments are supported by facts that have not been affected by an organisation that pays for biased reports/studies/research, whereas yours do.

    "Positive impact", do you recall anything from the recent past you've stated?
    You've stated this yourself, in its most simplest form of what myself and many others pointed out now and in the past. Yet you contradicted yourself with your jumbled statements. Telling me I disregard studies that suggest the mRNA vaccines are worth it. Even you can't make that claim because you yourself have stated the obvious, "Because the vaccine doesn't provide absolute protection."
    Why do I do what you state?
    I know you missed the post, so here it is again, for you especially, this time.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-covid-hospita.612421/page-9#post-1074528188
     
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    So what? Most people don't die of the measles, but we still vaccinate.
    A rather curious comment when more than 1m Americans have died from covid, plenty of them under 70.

    This from Bing:

    "According to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the provisional number of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. by age group as of June 14, 2023 are as follows (1):

    Age group Number of deaths
    0-17 years - 1,642
    18-29 years - 6,965
    30-39 years - 19,735
    40-49 years - 46,036
    50-64 years - 201,940
    65-74 years - 254,710
    75-84 years - 296,444
    85 years and older 307,169

    If we add up the number of deaths for the age groups below 70 years, we get 326,318. Therefore, the answer to your question is that 326,318 Americans under the age of 70 have died from COVID-19as of June 14, 2023. This is about 28.8% of the total COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. (1,134,641) reported by the CDC (1)."

    (1) https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Age-in-Years-/3apk-4u4f

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

    326,318 is not a small number in most folks' minds.
     
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    I can see you're uninterested in addressing my research.
     
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    Even healthy old people are at far less risk from the vaccine than covid.
     
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