Mueller ‘pitbull’ Weissmann let slip they were trying to oust Trump by setting a perjury trap

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  1. Cubed

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    He told the truth. When asked he gladly handed over the phone conversation transcript.

    The people pretending they heard some subtextual quid pro quo they're the liars.

    But it doesn't matter he's exonerated.
     
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    Well, they certainly weren't in service to the Russian cause...
     
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    When reading between the lines and determining your opinion of what you think he means, is considered PROOF, then we’re ****ing doomed. We’re not our country anymore. We don’t live in a place where you have to prove innocence. Go move to China for that kind of treatment. The Dems are following Obamas lead. Fundamental change. Sorry nope. Maybe they should have taken their own words back with Clinton when they claimed a partisan one sided impeachment is immoral and wrong. Funny;)
     
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    He didn’t give the transcript but rather an edited one.
    The official one remains classified.

    And yes, it does matter and will hopefully be investigated by future administrations.
    I look forward to them bringing to light all of the acts he has hidden.
     
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    The claim that there's some "official one" rings similarly to the idea of Trump being a Ruskie Agent :D.

    You know, enough claims that turn out to be false, ultimately diminish the voice of the complainer.(The DNC wit large.)
     
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    Thanks for your unsubstantiated opinion?
     
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    The Mueller Report bore it out as a fact. The IG report bore it out as a fact. It's no longer merely an investigation, but an accepted reality. Not only is Trump NOT a Ruskie agent, but we've had several FBI agents violate the law.
     
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    That was the official one, declassified. He didn’t create it the CIA did
     
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    They will never accept the results of the investigations
     
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    That is an often used tactic by prosecutors everywhere. It is how Mueller and his surrogates got Flynn,Stone, Page, Papadopoules, in part Manafort, and indirectly Cohen. It was how the SDNY sent Martha Stewart to prison. Happens all the time. Reminds me of a videoed deposition in a famous civil suit where the plaintiff lawyer asked the same question about a dozen times in one sitting.
     
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    October 2016

    An FBI supervisory special agent whose name is redacted signed their name on the initial FISA application, saying: “I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing information regarding Carter W. Page is true and correct.”

    Top FBI approval for the initial FISA application came from former FBI Director James Comey, who signed his name under a statement which read, in part, that the “certif[ied] with regard to the [redacted] requested in this verified application targeting Carter W. Page, an agent of the Government of Russia, a foreign power, as follows…” and that he “[execute[d] this certification regarding Carter W. Page in accordance with the requirements of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978.”

    Comey was replaced at the FBI by Director Christopher Wray.

    Top DOJ approval for the initial FISA application came from then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, who signed it saying that she “f[ound] that this application regarding Carter W. Page satisfies the criteria and requirements for such applications set forth in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 and that she “approve[d] the filing of this application regarding Carter W. Page with the Court.”

    A still-redacted DOJ lawyer told the FISA Court that the initial application “regarding Carter W. Page satisfies the criteria and requirements of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act… and therefore requests that the Court authorize the activities described herein.”

    The initial FISA application was signed by Judge Rosemary Collyer of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, whose signature attested that “on the basis of the facts submitted in the verified application, there is probable cause to believe that The Government of the Russian Federation (Russia) is a foreign power and Carter W. Page is an agent of Russia.” The FISA warrant granted by Collyer authorized the U.S. government to conduct a wide series of redacted surveillance techniques through January 2017, when the application would need to be renewed.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-carter-page-fisa-a-timeline

    Not surprising, but you will find Comey and Yates signed the 2nd FISA application in January 2017. The 3rd was in April 2017 and the fourth, June 2017.
     
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    https://www.justsecurity.org/59837/reports-carter-page-subject-fisa-warrant-2013-2014/

     
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    so they're still absolutely zero evidence of wrongdoing.
    Bringing what to light some imaginary plot if it already happened in your mind why does it anything you need to be brought to light?
     
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    Your first response is the answer to the second.

    More evidence means less opportunity to deny and avoid acknowledgment.

    Except for the die hards who won't ever accept reality.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm guessing 42 gave him a heads up!!!
     
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    So right now there is zero evidence of what is claimed.
    The claim that he is guilty of some imaginary quid pro quo extortion and that there is some cabal if Republicans trying to help him avoid prosecution is a conspiracy theory. If we apply Occam's razor to it. It's most likely the Democrats had nothing, just like they had nothing in him in the Russia conspiracy.

    I'm not saying he did nothing wrong, just that There isn't any evidence of what the Democrats are accusing him of.
     
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    Which is not the same as a court making a determination.
     
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    That's literally what a plea deal is, except the defendant is admitting to their guilt instead of a jury
     
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    Lol Cheney talking points again.
     
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    Cheney? What does he have to do with this? You do know this is 2020 right?
     

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