muslim criminal gangs in Denmark

The Sun reported in 2010 how Muslims took over the British underworld:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2853450/How-Muslims-took-over-the-British-underworld.html

This quote clearly shows that muslim crime is clearly more about ethnicity than actual religion.

From Den Kort Avis:

http://denkorteavis.dk/2012/politiaktion-mod-bander-i-vaekst/

http://jp.dk/indland/kbh/article1814600.ece

 

Your own article:

"I have every reason to hate, to be bitter and to seek revenge and justice. But I have on the contrary, one message, and only one message: Let us live together in peace, in mutual respect, and let us help each other as people rather than hating each other. And everyone in this community can make an effort, even us ordinary citizens. We can say from and to ... "

And to say the because the gangs have Muslims in it, that it means something, it doesn't. It's not going to get you far.

 

Not saying muslims are bad, just trying to make the point that taking in so many immigrants from certain countries results in severe problems. The USA has had similar problems with undocumented Hispanic gangs, but on a much larger scale. This has only accelerated the process of urban decay and middle class flight out of the crime-ridden inner cities (particularly most of Los Angeles in the USA).

I say let us live separately apart in peace. We can have mutual respect between our separate communities, and different countries can help eachother.

There does not need to be any hate. The one sure recipe for hate and resentment is to mix everyone all together in the same neighborhood, then idealistically expect all the different ethnicities to get along. This has been problematic in many cities in the USA, problematic in London, and it will no doubt be problematic in Denmark. The danish people just do not have any prior experiences with this level of cultural diversity; they do not know what they are getting themselves into.

 

You know, something tells me, it's not where they're from, but where they go that's the bigger problem.

 

Prison violence is nearly non-existent in Denmark. But all that could soon change. I forsee danish prisons becoming like American prisons, full of racial violence and rapes. http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/65775-racially-motivated-prison-rapes/

 

What does this have to do with what I said?

 

Where else do you think they are going to go? To prison.
And that is not going to be the end of the problems, for danes unlucky enough to be in prison. A prison sentence, even a short one, is soon to become much much worse.

This is really not going to be any different than the Blacks in the USA. Perhaps the danish criminologists should start reading about the experiences of the United states with its young male African American population in relation to its prison system. These extreme sociological problems are absolutely unimaginable to most danes now, but it may soon become common occurence in the next few decades.

Ethnicity matters.

 

Yes, because it's not like there's an step before being sent to prison.

 

So tell me why there were not any problems like this before Denmark started taking in so many asylum seekers? Explain that.

And if you say it is all about low incomes, will there really be enough decent jobs for all these additional people? In other words, can we be sure this problem is going to go away after a few generations? Because this is not what the Americans have seen with a large segment of their Black population after many many generations.

Copenhagen is going to have to greatly increase its police forces in response to all the asylum seekers it has taken in. How much is this going to cost?
Do we really want the surrounding suburbs of Copenhagen to become like America's capital? Few people realise how bad the crime really is in Washington, D.C.:

My country is fairly racially homogenous, and I do not want it to become any more ethnically diverse. Denmark is a UTOPIA compared to most of the other countries in the world. I want to keep it that way.

 

What utter nonsense. There's only a few world class criminal organizations out there and semi literate, ragtag Pakistani boys are not among them. They might be getting bigger in street drug dealing, but this article talks about these fools as if they were the N'drangheta or Yakuza. The Turks, Russians, Albanians and West Indians control the drug business in London at the top level.

This. They hunt in packs like all cowards. They would never be man enough to take on a black or white youth one on one because they know they would be on the receiving end of a much deserved hiding. Honestly, these people are vile. What is the logic of having them in Western society. It's almost as if our left / liberals have some bizarre suicide drive.

 

No, the progressives just want to flood the country with poor immigrants to get easy votes. With the higher fertility rates, it is the gift that keeps on giving! They can worry about the all the social problems later.

Careful, the word "liberal" has a very different political meaning in europe than in America.

 

He quoted The Sun as a source.

In public too.

 

Glasgow has 6 times as many teenage gangs than any other UK city and London has 10 times more people than Glasgow. Should we evict all these Scots and import more civilised people, do you think? (Ray, I'm not asking you)

 

You know we get some fools who ask why liberals term islamophobia as racism. Apart from the fact that these idiots think that you can spot a muslim by the colour of their skin (many muslims are arabs and are therefore very close ethically to many Jews, others are from the Balkans and ethnically slavic, otehrs from Asia etc...), it becomes pretty clear when you read posts like this.

The reason that we in the West choose to live alongside muslims is due to our intrinsic Western, judeo-Christian, post Enlightenment, secular value system. We believe in freedom of religion, and have done for quite some time. We also know that it is cultural diversity that has shaped progress and societies with more immigrants in history have proved to be the most advanced. Moreover we have had this debate before, when the more cretinous retards amongst us wanted to blame all their ills on European Jewry. We crushed them into the dust but only after these scum had murdered millions of Jews, Rroma, slavs and gay people, including hundreds of thousands of children. It's a disease that we keep catching, this caveman hatred of the new and unfamiliar. But we always have the antibodies to fight against it. The Nazis are back. Now they hate muslims and will build a propaganda machine around isolated events or even real social ills, to drive their murderous and barbaric program. And we will crush them again, either in argument or under the soles of our own feet. Whatever it takes. Just like before.

 

Great sponsored propaganda .
Exactly as our BNP talks , now that they are trying to update their image and rub out images of Neo Nazi scum bags .
Read carefully , and you will see that it is the old message of White supremacy but presented in a softer way .
The format is predictably boring .
Start by showing that your feelings and views are those of a tolerant and wise Saint .
Find one or two unacceptable incidents .
Ones that arouse easy simple emotions .
Then , generalise wildly .
Pretend to be an expert .
Promote concern , worry and fear .
Offer a peaceful solution that , just by coincidence , always turns out to be violent and Racist .
Job done . Money in the Post .

 

Keep Glasgow exactly as it is .Wonderful place
Down here we use it as our main Tourist argument for people never to venture further north than Hadrian's Wall , unless disguised as a kindly Haggis farmer .
It's no longer the drink and drugs . We are getting reports that cannibalism is flourishing again .

 

Anders is right, there IS a problem with muslim gangs in Denmark.

We have always had gangs like Hells Angles and such and they could get pretty violent too. At one point they where
shooting anti-tank rockets at each others club houses! They are bad, but the muslim gangs are different.

The muslims seem to clump together in gettos even if the government tries to prevent it. Muslims want to live near
others of their kind. Nothing special about that. New York had "Chinatown", "Little Italy", little-you-name-it. The
gettos form in high-rise low-income apartment complexes. But these muslim gettos turn violent. Taxis refuse to go
there because they get robbed. Whenever the police show up, a mob of muslims form and start to throw rocks at
the police car. Groups of young muslims stand around and yell BS at ethnic danes. Unsurprisingly, many danes leave
and that just add to the getto-fication (if that is a word).

There is a high-rise near where I live and sure enough, you can see a little gang standing around near the local
gas station with their custom street racers looking suspisious. And I'm not just paranoid. Last year there was a
drive-by shooting. A black BWM pulled up and opend fire on a group of five. Three of them was taken to the
hospital, one was only hit through the clothes and one was missed entirely. I can't remember if they ever caught
the shooters, but this is not the kind of thing you want in your neighborhood.

 

Viv mentioned Glasgow gangs

[video=youtube;g1JKwRJfc04]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1JKwRJfc04[/video]

You acknowledge poverty. I have heard a Dane before saying about how Denmark tried to get Muslims to integrate and live in Danish communities and that they refused to. Can you explain how you tried to do this?

 

Young Tribe Ya Bass.

London Olympics and the good ole Queen will pull in trade for you. I'm even venturing south myself this summer.

Teenage gangs are a problem everywhere, you can't say it is permanently confined to one ethnicity. It's perhaps more confined to whomever happens to have teenage kids and no jobs, i.e. the economy did it.

We used to live beside a college and understandably kids used to hang about the grounds after hours. Some years they were good kids and other years they were not. They installed CCTV and it solved the problem but we moved out anyway to a more rural location.

...just a bit a banter. It will not improve though until we have our hands on our own economy and people who understand what is going on are able to focus on improving opportunity in these areas.

 

Agreed. I put it in because Great Danes description of his Muslims seemed not unlike these Glaswegians territorial behaviour. Of course if they were Muslim the problem everyone would say was that that was what Muslims were like, but really it is something which tends to happen when people suffer from poverty and lack of opportunity. The Muslims in Denmark get their identity from being Muslim, the Glasgow lads from their turf and their particular gang. If you watch the film you will find they have found a way out for some - a good football team with members from all the gangs - problem over for those few...and yes, it is bad and needs to be sorted but also is a long standing thing throughout history that the urban poor get into gangs. When the opportunity is available for social mobility and achieving something worthwhile the problem ends.

 

So tell us if Anders is right:

1. What has this got to do with the fact that they follow a particular religion (islam)?
2. How is Anders right about the ethnicity of muslim gangs, given that islam is a multi-eythnic religion?

I wonder if you can.

 

Most of these "muslims" are Somalis and Pakis. While the word "muslim" technically refers to religion, the term has come to refer to ethnicity, as I have already stated. Although muslims are a heterogenous bunch, the ones that typically come to europe have much more in common with eachother than with the european people they come to live amongst.

 

Thank-you for conceding that your post is as filthily racist as we know it to be.

 

For me it may be more about ethnicity, but for many others concerned about immigration it is all about culture and concern about growing social problems. There are also worries about employment, wages, higher taxes, and increasing cost of housing.

I do not see any of the muslim countries opening up their doors to asylum seekers from Africa, willing to hand out citizenship.

 

That's because, specifically in the Middle East, they take most from places like Iraq and Afghanistan.