Muslim group sues FBI over surveillance at California mosques

CAIR(s) ties to terrorist organizations is formally documented.
So why don't they shut up and quit trying to circumvent legal and resposible supervision by the authorities.

Or better yet, pack up their Koran and get the hell out of our country.

 

I think that every mosque in a US metropolitan area has some islamist radicals attending it. EVERY ONE.

Observation os NOT a violation of anyone's Constitutional rights, contrary to your delusion.

You do NOT have the imaginary "right" to not be observed in public.

If we'd started paying attention to the nonstop threats of violence against us the islamists have been making for 50+ years, 50+ years ago, several thousand innocent Americans (and UNCOUNTED OTHERS), might still be alive....

I believe what the islamists tell us about their plans, why don't you?

 

NO, islam is at war with us; we haven't managed to figure that out ,yet....

 

We've been fighting Islam since the early to mid 80's. And you can see it right down the list for all of the terrorist attacks or attempted attacks; you would see most of them are from the people who follow Islam. This is a concept that is lost on the far left.
And people get pissed that people want to pay attention followers of Islam. But, like I said this country and the American people, if they choice to accept that or not, are at war with Islam.

 

And how would you know that? It seems you completely pulled that out of your behind.

 

We've been (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-footing around, until 2002. We need to steel our resolve, and get with it.
The islamist jihadists have greatly increased their power in the mideast, with the help of our own POTUS, the idiot.

 

The FBI infiltrated the KKK in the 1950's and 1960's.

This is the same thing.

If Arabs are not organizing terror plots in the mosque they have nothing to fear.

 

I do not know what you are asking me at this point.

I very clearly stated my position.

 

Let's get the FBI to surveil you 24/7 and see how you like it. I hope you are an exhibitionist.

 

This is far from the same thing. The KKK was founded with the sole intent of preventing African Americans from advancing in this society.

Islam is a religion, and like all religions there are fanatics. However, the FBI can not just investigate on a whim. We do have a Constitution in this country that prevents government intrusion into people's lives without cause.

Arabs? You seem to be confusing a religion with a Semitic people that live in a region. Arabs are not necessarily Muslim, and Muslims are not necessarily Arabs.

 

Here is what the world needs to do in order to deal with the threat of Islam, the Drug Cartels, and Iran. You need to get really aggressive. Not this bull of being passive. Here is an example when you are taking fire from a mosque; level the mosque.

With the Cartels: put apache gunship in the air with rockets, Air-to-Ground Missiles, and full ammo on the 30mm chain gun. They give them the fire at will direction to shot anything that moves. Do the something with predator drones, Blackhawk Helicopter, and anything else that flies.

Do that a couple of times, and illegal’s will stop crossing. They are not going to want to get shot. And by doing that, the Cartels will stop putting drugs on people, and will stop drug trafficking. At least until they can figure out a away around that.

Stop (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) footing around, and this crap will stop. Look at the airwar in WW2. What did we do, we leveled cites. That is long the lines of what we need to do.

 

I am not aware of any country declaring war with Islam. I did not blame Muslims for 9/11 and other terrorist attacks. I placed the blame where it belonged, on Wahhabists.

 

How do you know they aren't already?

I am not an Obama supporter that leaves me open for the same treatment.

But unless Obama is planting false evidence I have nothing to fear.

 

I would not call it a whim.

There is 9/11 and countless other Islamic terror attacks against the US to cite as good reasons to keep an eye on them.

 

Gosh, I am trying to think of where I have heard something about this before. Let me see if I can paraphrase it.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

In the country that I live in , the USA, you don't shoot people suspected of jumping a fence.

 

The people responsible for 9/11 are, for the most part, dead. The mosque in question in the OP is not one where these attacks were planned. I see no reason to indite an entire religion because Americans can not tell the difference between the different sects within that religion.

 

Theo were alive and attending radical mosque's before their attacks.

The mosque's have long been a recruitment center for radical Islam.

 

Patriot Act. You might want to go read that.

 

Okay. What does that have to do with this country?

Our very existence here as a nation came form folks that sought freedom from religious persecution at the hands of a government.

Our Constitution was designed to specifically not allow government to police people's lives with no cause.

Islam did not attack us any more than Christianity attacked anyone or Judaism attacked anyone in modern ages. Radical Wahhabists attacked us.

 

The Patriot Act allows government to investigate anyone with no cause, simply based on religion?

By all means show me where that is in the Act. I would love to see anything like that.

 

You missed the point of what I said. I am not talking about if something like that is legal or not, or if we should do something like that. I am talking about the results if something like that were to happen. And FYI, in Arizona due to a 1915 law, you can shot any person who crossing the border. That 1915 law is still on the books, it is a active law.

 

it alows them to investigate anyone for anything at anytime. Why do you think ACLU is so worryed about that.

 

What have you been for the last 25 years? Islam is a religion of war, and they have declared that on US and the Western World.

 

It is our country that allowed these Muslims to come here that some of the hate so much that they want to kill us.

 

Unless you have a way to read their minds, I don't know what we can really do about that.