Muslims see ‘foreign law’ bill as attack on Shariah

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  1. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    And you're exactly right. Very good point and it's really laughable to think that Arab men would speak candidly to a woman, particularly an American Christian woman......
     
  2. Iron River

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    A VERY Good Question!!




    A young Arab asks his father, "What is that weird hat you are wearing?"

    The father said, "Why, it's a 'chechia' because in the desert it protects our heads from the sun."

    "And what is this type of clothing that you are wearing?" asked the young man.

    "It's a 'djbellah' because in the desert it is very hot and it protects the body." said the father.

    The son asked, "And what about those ugly shoes on your feet?

    His father replied, "These are 'babouches", which keep us from burning our feet in the desert."

    "Tell me," added the boy.

    "Yes, my son?"

    "Why are you living in Dearborn, Michigan, and still wearing all that (*)(*)(*)(*)?"
     
  3. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    However, the courts will consider an agreement between a couple about child custody, support, and visitation in its deliberations,no matter WHAT a couple bases their agreement on..

    If the children are not disadvantaged, its fine with the courts.

    Like what? No one has proposed making prayers 5 times a day into a law, or stoning adulterous women into a law.

    There are no cases of this. These people "reactions" are the result of hysterical Muslim-haters propaganda.

    There is NO need to pass laws to control our courts. That is what our CURRENT laws do and are for.

    No one can support our constitution and be in favor of these insane proposed laws that unconstitutionally try to fix a problem that does not and cannot exist.
     
  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So why do people wear those (*)(*)(*)(*) suit jackets and ties in Phoenix in the summer??? :lol:
     
  5. Hummingbird

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    Because Phoenix is an American city and it's American men wearing the standard attire of jackets & ties while living in Phoenix?:omg:

    What do you think?

    I think you missed the whole point of IR's post.....
     
  6. BullsLawDan

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    Exactly.

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    Christophobia? Predictable. Clueless. Comments like this from leftists confirm that they would not know a theocracy if one bit them on the kiester. Clueless.
     
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    You talk a lot but you keep not making sense.

    1. It doesn't matter if the text contains the word Sharia. It states "Muslim beliefs". That makes the case.

    2. If you try to say that Sharia does not equal all Islamic beliefs you are showing a lack of knowledge of Islam. Islam is the Koran and Hadith. Sharia is directly derived from them. Sharia IS Islam.

    3. I can't believe that you are idiotally still trying to make the ludicrous case that the judge did not deny the restraining order based on anything to do with the parties' beliefs. Spin it, twist it, do whatever you want to it, LOL, the judge most certainly did deny the order based on the Muslim beliefs (AKA Sharia law).

    4. You said there's no need for something to be done (I guess you're referring to the laws passed in AZ & TN, et al in the works). You base that on
    your statement that "the courts are already correcting the errors themselves." I guess by that you mean the appeals court decision. Well yeah, the appeal corrected it, after a years time had passed (or was it even longer than that ?). During this time the wife had to go without the restraining order. Do you consider that acceptable ? I don't. That's why of course there is a need for legislation, to prevent more judges from making Sharia based decisions like Judge Joseph Charles.

    5. Funny how you say : "from your perspective", and that's NOT my perspective at all. This must be the 3rd time I'm saying this. Sharia law could be talked about, it could be attempted as a defense (however absurd), but court decision cannot be made based on it. Get it ?

    6. I did not say that the defense used honor killing as a defense in the trial, but only that they had intended to do that, but then chose the accident ploy instead. Make a habit of putting words in peoples mouths do you ?

    7. Again your "By you standard" words are FALSE. NO, that's not my standard, and I didn't say that, you said that. Nice try.

    And I doubt is you know 1/10 as much about Islam and Islamization as I do. Want to take my Islamization quiz ? I've given it to a number of Islamapologists who thought they were knowledgable. LOL. Highest grade they got was 5%. Most got zero.
     
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    Does this look INTENTional enough to you ?

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).
     
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    I get that Islam is a Satanic murder cult dreamed up by a false prophet living a desert cave screwing a little girl. Sharia is based off those false beliefs and is there fore irrelavent to real Americans and American law, that is far better than any Islamo could ever imagine no matter how hard he tried. Islamo's and leftists suck.
     
  11. protectionist

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    Yeah ? And do you have some documented evidence that shows that "Evangelical Christians profess to do the same thing" If so, let's hear it.
    I haven't heard of it in the Bible (as it is rampant throughout the Koran). And even if they did advocate that, they are not Christianity. They aren't Jesus Christ, and they are not the Bible. But in Islam, violation of Article 6 section 2 of the Constitution and the sedition laws US Code 2384 & 2385, is in the Koran, and is in the Hadith (words of Mo the Pedophile), and is the crux of what Islam stands for - world domination.

    You simply are wrong about the judges ruling. He DID consider the defendants intent > which was Muslim belief (Sharia law).

    Nobody's freaking out. Are you ? They're just doing what needs to be done (a small fraction) to defend against Islamization. Many more laws ought to be passed as well, in this regard, with respect to many other of the instances of Islamization.

    And just because an appeal made a correction doesn't mean a lower court judge will not still rule again contrary to that appeal. The Supreme court ruled against affirmative action in the Ricci vs, DeStefano case, but is even the federal government itself now not utilizing affirmative action in its hiring processes. They are.
     
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    Who said anything against arbitration ?
     
  13. protectionist

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    Islam is about social INjustice (to women, children, black people, slaves, animals, homosexuals, and "infidels"). It is the most NON-peaceful, and UNcivilized motley collection of uncivilized, barbaric savages that the world has ever known, which has resulted in the deaths of 270 million innocent people around the globe. 120 million Africans.
    80 million Hindus. 60 million Christians, and 10 million Buddhists.

    As for "hatred", nowhere does it exist more than in the abomination known as the Koran.
     
  14. protectionist

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    FALSE ! All over America, Muslims are practicing Islam as the Koran advocates and commands, depriving American Muslims (especially women) of their Constitutional rights.
     
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    No truer words have ever been spoken!!!

    I'd rep you, but I gotta spread it around.
     
  16. protectionist

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    Very well said. Arbitration is a red herring - not the issue. Violation of civil rights and US laws is.
     
  17. protectionist

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    You are right about all of that except the last 2 words. I am a leftist (at least pertaining to economics) and I am a staunch opponent of Islam and Islamization. The, uncivilized barbaric savages who push this vile ideology, masquerading as a religion, are becoming more friendless every day.
    Some political leftists in the government have also been open opponents of the abomination of Islam such as Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Howard Dean, and some leftist media people like Geraldo Rivera, Bill Maher and David Letterman.

    Hatred of Islam (ie. hatred of hatred) has become a bipartisan thing in 2011.
     
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    You sound more like an actual liberal then, like me.
     
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    I don't see what the issue is here.. USA law is what it is.. Sharia law is what it is. They are separate, and in this country, USA law prevails!! If they want Sharia, get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out and go back where you came from.. Very Simple.. We do not accept Sharia under the laws of this country. If we do, we are no longer sovereign.. That is not acceptable.. If you can not assimilate and live in this country as it is, get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out!!!!!!
     
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    So the two of you purport to "exactly" understand the "problem" of Islamization in America, and the Sharia law connected with it ?
     
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    What Islamization in America?
     
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    Nothing unusual about not knowing about the thousands of instances of Islamization in America. The MSM generally blacks it out, for fear of being sued by Muslim Brotherhood front groups like CAIR, ISNA, MSA, etc.

    Here's a few examples just to get you started learning about it. :

    http://www.omegatimes.com/article.php?intid=1330

    http://www.clickorlando.com/money/3614199/detail.html

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291569,00.html

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16472393/#.TmJgH2pyX2c

    http://blogs.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/jul/19/the-flying-imams---act-two/

    For more information, these are good sources, scholarly written with thousands of footnoted sources to back up everything.

    1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

    2. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

    3. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

    4. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry

    5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

    6. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

    7. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (AND THE CRUSADES) by Robert Spencer.

    I've read all these books and I recommend them highly. You'll be astonished at how much Islamization has been going on completely under the radar, with almost all Americans oblivious to it.

    Whether people know about it or not (it's part of the Muslim Brotherhood's plan to keep it all quiet), THIS is their plan :

    Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

    The key words from it are :

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).
     

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