1. Alabama 12-1 2. Oregon 12-1 3. Florida State 13-0 4. Ohio State 12-1 5. Baylor 11-1 6. TCU 11-1 7. Michigan State 10-2 8. Mississippi State 10-2 9. Kansas State 9-3 10. Ole Miss 9-3
Couldn't agree more. I'm not sure my Buckeyes will get in but damn did they look good against Wisconsin.
29 straight.... another season undefeated for the defending national champs..... Just to give an idea about how long it's been since November 2012..... my current job, that I've been at since August 2013.... I didn't have.... I told my wife... I didn't even know her the last time FSU lost. my WIFE. A lady that I met, courted, proposed, and married all within a time since my team last lost. it's been over 2 years now.. I look forward to win #31 if we get there..... I didn't really expect upsets this past weekend though. I know it's tin-foil hat thinking.... but with so much money on the line for these conferences.... EVERY CONFERENCE had something to lose had the underdog pulled off the upset. I like the final 4... I'm not crazy about the order, but the teams are correct IMO. I felt it should be 1. FSU 2. Bama 3. Oregon 4. Ohio State I'm not saying FSU is the best of the 4, (that will sort itself out in January), but undefeated should have a lot more weight in the seeding process that determines homefield advantage. The only thing I think I would possibly change about the selection committee.... is, why do we need a week to week seeding update starting in September? Obviously, we need the AP and Coaches polls to remain for the entire season, but just have a one time announcement after the championship games and save the drama.... I know it's a ratings ploy for ESPN.... Beyond that.... Here's what I took away from the final 4 teams..... 1. FSU - I believe that all the legal problems he has is absolutely affecting his on the field performance, despite what people have said to the contrary. I think he's so talented, that even on a bad game, he can still find ways to win, but did anyone else notice the difference between the UF game (prior to the Student conduct hearings) and the GT game (after the hearings)? Jameis played incredibly well on Saturday. IDC who you are or how talented you are.... and you can say it's his own fault or not, guilty or innocent.... doesn't matter, going trhough crap like what he's going through absolutely affects you and your stress levels, etc. 2. Bama - as good as any team in the nation, even despite the loss. But are not invincible 3. Oregon - Marioto wins the Heisman. He's the "anti-Jameis" He's very consistently good over his entire career, his teams are always right in the conversation of title contenders.... he's a good kid in the media..... he wins it. a Heisman puts a big target on your back as a player in terms of off the field troubles because every hiccup is ESPN's top story.... and unless you're Tim Tebow and a virgin, and strong enough in your faith to avoid the pitfalls.... you run major risk of political style attacks on you and your charector as a returning Heisman trophy (national champ) Marioto can win it, and gets to avoid all that by turning pro this season. 4. OSU - They beat the brakes off Wisconsin....I don't know if that's impressive or not. Wisconsin was not anywhere close to elite.... In fact, in most other conferences, I have them at 4-6 losses, not in a championship game.... But one thing I can say is Urban meyer can attract some qb's to his schools. Had Cam Newton not screwed up at UF and left to AU.... I think UF could have won the National title (or competed for it) that 5th season of Meyer's tenure at UF. He had Tebow, with Newton waiting in the wings for his time, and he could have quite possibly parlayed that into a Jameis Winston had he still been at UF and we'd have Meyer over Saben in terms of who people think the best coach is. And give credit to Meyer..... he now goes 3 deep with quality qb's (instead of just 2 like he did at UF) I do anticipate a huge qb controversy next year between a healthy #1 and healthy #2 qb where eventually, one of them leaves OSU TCU/Baylor/Big 12 - They need to pick up 2 more teams and play a championship game. PERIOD! Its not that I don't think the conference is quality, I just think 1 less game than the Big X and OSU getting figure skating style points by routing the team in their championship game ultimately hurt them. but that takes me back to my suggestion that they only announce the selections at the end of the season. Had we not seen TCU at #3, just 5 days earlier.... I don't think there is really any controversy over the 4 teams. If we didn't see FSU slipping in the ranks, and we are hit with a #3 seed yesterday.... it is what it is... and finally.... I am sick of the phrase "body of work"
nah Urban vs Nick redux is a good story. Old rivals from the SEC meet again. IMO, TCU would have given more of a challenge to Bama than OSU. But, both coaches know each other so, advantage: nobody. As for FSU vs Oregon: If Jimbo can figure out how to stop Mariota from running, then he shuts down Oregon. If FSU can run long, sustained scoring drives, and stop the run from Mariota, then it will be a long day for Oregon Now, here's something to make you go hmmm the game from California is first with the game in Texas kicking off at 8:30PM eastern time Why isn't the game from CA the late game? That's silly I like the 4 teams championship game: Bama v FSU champion: Bama by 10
FSU hasn't played anybody beyond decent, and they've struggled to win against decent teams. They are hanging on by their fingernails. Oregon by 10. Bama by 7 against OSU Bama by 7 against Oregon Bama #1. My prediction anyway. The worst of the 4 teams is FSU with their cake schedule. - - - Updated - - - Pfffffft. FSU is vastly over-rated. They could easily be a two loss team possibly three loss.
lots of could'ves and should'ves... and people watching FSU games every week hoping "is this finally the week" but alas... it never is. I think Oregon scores 30 something. There is no STOPPING oregon and Mariotta..... but the defense just needs to slow them down some... and then let the offense work. Jameis had a great game last saturday... he had a horrible game the prior saturday. FSU may be overrated... the least deserving of the 4 in your opinion.... but you just don't watch college foozball if you think FSU can't beat any of the other 3.
Mizzou beat Florida handily, while the Seminoles struggled with them. Mizzou - 42 Florida - 13 Bama had no issue dispatching Mizzou. FSU is undefeated and I'm not saying does not deserve to be there, because undefeated is undefeated...however they are the weakest of the 4 teams in strength of schedule. 6 wins by less than 1 TD, some against .500 teams Oklahoma State: 37 – 31 Clemson: 23 – 17 Notre Dame: 31 – 27 Louisville: 42 – 31 Miami (FL): 30 – 26 Boston College: 20 – 17 Florida: 24 – 19
Anyone can beat anyone given certain circumstances. That being said, FSU would be a underdog on a neutral field to anyone in the top 6, even Baylor who doesn't play defense. That "never is" attitude will be coming to a end in January.
uh huh.... I know that's what you want to believe anyways.... very possible.... but as I tell all my gaytor fan friends, who are, like you, just dreaming of the day when it finally happens and FSU loses.... "I'd rather my team lose in the playoffs than not be in them"
Don't think they'll make it that far, huh? Oh well... Maybe your marriage will outlast the Seminole win streak. Good luck with that.
the SEC seems to want one more hurdle to overcome before Bama has to deal with them. The SEC has proven they can beat Oregon's style of play in a title game... they haven't proven they can stop FSU. my marriage has a renew clause in it.... so if the FSU win streak can last another 69 1/2 years... that'd be great....
That's what I want to believe, huh? That's what everyone believes, outside of you. I've bet enough money on sports in my life to know what I'm talking about. I could care less about FSU. I hope they beat Oregon honestly. If OSU beats Bama, they would hang about 50 on FSU. Unfortunately, Oregon is going to do it first.
you think I believe they will never be beaten again? or you think I believe that oregon can't beat FSU? Either way, you're wrong on both counts. I have no delusions that FSU is invincible, or that Oregon, Bama or OSU are capable of beating FSU. But I'm also not writing off my team, because right along with believing that any of the 3 can beat FSU..... I believe FSU can beat any of the 3. It's only the FSU haters that have FSU already eliminated before the game is played.
I stated FSU would be a underdog on a neutral field against anyone in the top 6, to which you said "that's what you want to believe anyways". It's a fact, not opinion. While I agree FSU could beat any team in the country, teams like Oregon, Bama, and OSU, FSU are maybe looking at beating them 10-30% of them time. They are all better teams top to bottom. So, from a betting stand point, you would be a fool to have FSU winning a title this year.
Let's get down to brass tacks. Florida State has struggled, almost, in every week this season, only winning by less than a score in each of the last four weeks. It would be understandable to think that an upgrade in competition would lead to a blowout. The Seminoles know how to win while being led by a quarterback who has never lost in his career. Oregon will finish with double-digit wins over No. 7 Arizona, No. 8 Michigan St, No. 15 UCLA and No. 23 Utah; and... Florida State just allowed 465 total yards and 35 points to Georgia Tech, a team not known for throwing...the Ducks should be just fine offensively in this one. FSU deserves respect, they are a solid team from top to bottom, led by a QB who knows how to win and when it's all said and done...it's the W that matters, not how you got it. Kronik is right about a neutral field though. The game will be in Pasadena, and this favors Oregon who has played at the venue and is based on the West Coast along with their fans. FSU will get a decent showing by it's fans but don't expect a sea of tomahawk throwing and chanting in the stadium drowning out the Ducks' fans. Both fans will be loud when it counts. While you cannot underestimate FSU's ability to find ways to win...I still favor +8.5 to Oregon
yeah, I don't think they would be. It's wishful thinking - - - Updated - - - you know something else that Oregon did better than FSU.... LOSE a game
To a 10th ranked team, they later blew out 51 - 13 in the PAC 12 conference championship, while FSU eeked out a win against Georgia Tech in the ACC championship, probably their toughest opponent this year. Oregon routs AZ Ohio State routs WI, without their starting QB Alabama dispatches Mizzou with no problems. meanwhile FSU wins, but with a struggle FSU had an easier schedule and can't even dominate what should be easier foe. Oregon, Alabama and Ohio State are capable of dominating lesser teams...FSU has struggled. You can talk up your Seminoles all you want...they are the underdogs even as an undefeated team. If they can win 2 straight from here, then I would agree they are the best college football in the country because they can find a way to win. I don't believe that is the case now because they have yet to be truly tested on the level of an Oregon, Alabama or Ohio State.
Which is irrelevant. That comment takes me back to wrestling days. A common phrase when we wrestled schools from West Virginia or Indiana was "a state champ in West Virginia is a district qualifier in Ohio", meaning lack of quality competition is why some guys win titles. FSU is no different. They barely beat bad teams on several occasions. Beat someone of relevance and you'll have my attention. No one outside of a small city in Florida thinks FSU is the best team in the land because they went undefeated, so it's a irrelevant point to make.
OIC.... FSU stats.... relevant... the big fat LOSS stat for the other 3.... irrelevant.... "lack of competition" is a myth created by the SEC and ESPN pushing SEC Network.. Here's another stat.... ACC went 5-1 against the SEC. I ref wrestling currently (Florida) Our post season went District, region, state (I think Ohio has 3 levels, but name them different.... can't remember, exactly) our favorite saying when seeding meetings at various tournaments during the year....was to say "Well my kid was a district qualifier...." (which meant he made weight last year) We'll have to compare wrestling stories one day. I got a million of them from coaching and reffing it. Weekends are jam packed with tournaments for the next 3 months for me.... but it pays for my Christmas every year....
Vegas has Oregon 8.5 points favored, while Bama is favored by 5 points.. Don't believe us, believe the betting line. Now of course the game must be played, and FSU could very well win. We're just restating that FSU is not favored to win even though going in they have the best record. Do they deserve to be there in the top 4? Yes Will they win the championship this year? Probably not, I wouldn't bet on it. Could they win? Of course they could win, in the college game, anything can happen.
Vegas makes lines on how to make money.... not on who's going to win... there is a difference. Vegas also had Oregon favored over Arizona. Bama over Ole Miss, and OSU over VT
