My area is getting hit hard by global warming

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  1. savage-republican

    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    Climate change has been happening for 100's of millions of years, and will continue long after people are no longer here. For man to think he is the king of the earth is foolish. Climate change is as inevitable as death!
     
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    MSM is more concerned about record hot days, as in "the hottest temperature recorded on this day of the month on record." That usually means the past 100 years or so.
     
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    True, but the rate of climate change has been increased by human activities.
     
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    Possibly, but not conclusively proven.
     
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    The question is how much of an effect things like pollution have on the overall climate. The changes in the ice caps are tied to pollution.

    Significant changes in the ice caps lead to differences in sea level, and the rise of temperature itself can lead to changes in sea level due to thermal expansion.

    Overall, the idea is that limiting pollution can slow down the effects of climate change. Granted, it seems to be clear that some of the damage done is irreversible.
     
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    Still all just unproven theory.
     
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    The New York area has been hit hard by global warming since around Christmas. The burial ceremony for my stepfather the day after Christmas was frigid with snow on the ground. Only a few brief thaws since then.
     
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    Yep, the "look outside my bedroom window" analysis to climate change.
     
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    You appear to be confused as to what constitutes scientific-based theory within academic discourse. In this regard, the scientific theories pertaining to the links between smoking and lung cancer, HIV and aids as well as the theory of evolution, are in actuality, facts. The science linking human activity to AGW falls into the same category. Denying the reality of climate change is akin to being a flat-earther.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    We get it in spades in the US. The legacy MSM is totally on-board for the Big Government agenda and does everything it can to advance that agenda. That includes the AGW scam.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    Sigh, this is the problem. I have never denied that man contributes something. Again, if you are so sure of the theory, how much warming is contributed by man?
     
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    Please substantiate your claim that the media in the US are constantly referencing climate change in their weather reports. Given the fact that you are a flat-earther denialist, I suspect your belief that media in the US bang on constantly about climate change is based on cognitive dissonance and therefore unfounded.
     
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    He never mentioned weather reports.
     
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    There are no absolute 100 percent certainties in scientific theory in terms of quantifying accurate 'tempo and change' linkages whether that relates to evolution or climate change. Nevertheless, that doesn't negate the science.
     
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    Weather reports form a part of the news media, yes?
     
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    There is a known phenomenon here , when Europe is extremely cold African heat is trapped over Greece and we are having some really nice weather.
    Keeping in mind that the coldest days here are between February and March today i woke up to a thick fog , from what meteorologists are saying this is caused because of very hot (for the season) days that some times reach 20C and very cold (for Athens) nights where temperature falls below 10C , this combined with the sand clouds ( usually during spring) that recent years became regular indicate that the weather is indeed changing.

    Eh and the south part of the country (Crete) is really weird at sumer , 35C at day and 18C at night , this is clearly an effect of desertification .
     
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    Weather patterns will always change. Long before man made CO2 came on the scene (around 1950) the Anasazi of the Southwest left their area due to the drying out of the Southwest.

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    So are reports on animal shelters. What's your point?
     
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    Here in the south-east of England it has hardly stopped raining for two months solid with winds of 80 miles per hour to boot. We are suffering the effects of flooding, storm damage and coastal erosion throughout vast swaths of the country and all records are being broken. Conservative predictions indicate that if a long-term major engineering project to modernize the Thames Barrier is not undertaken within the next couple of decades to mitigate against the worse impacts of the weather extremes, then London will be flooded within 50 years - it's a simple as that.
     
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    Yes I know. Are there anymore strawmen you wish to knock down?
     
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    While this is true the Anasazi were pretty recent people , back in ancient times there was a book named "about waters and winds" that colonists used as a guide for settlement, this book had records of weather patterns around the Mediterranean and a far as i know it never mentions sand storms in Attica or June snow in Sicily .
     
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    This sounds wet! but hey look at the bright side : you are not living in the Netherlands .

    I have only read a couple of articles and watched 3-4 documentaries about this issue, from what i understand weather change will turn UK winters in Siberian ones.
    No idea what causes the torrential rains .
     
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    Actually, unlike us here in the UK, a succession of Dutch governments' haven't been acting like the proverbial ostrich with its head in the sand.
     
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    The Netherlands have some history with floods so this is natural.
    At the other hand i bet the corporate lapdog you have for PM is in denial.
     
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    And the man made CO2 is based on only recent times, around 1950 when CO2 started rising due to industrialization. The temperature record, usually starting around 1890 or so, shows warming before that and the current hiatus may just put us on the same warming trend which has been happening since the Little Ice Age. In fact the current hiatus pretty much follows the Pacific Decadal Oscillation overlayed on the long term warming trend and some scientists predict it may last until 2030. There is little evidence proving that the increase in CO2 is causing the warming and some scientist believe the models are programmed with too much sensitivity to CO2.
     
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