My ONE problem with homosexual men

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Greenleft, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't aware that all cruising happened in bathrooms.
     
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    White msm infection numbers are at 6,982 — not 11,200 as you claimed — as per the cdc in 2017 and black fsm is at 4,008 [source]. One in ten men that identify as heterosexual have self reported only homosexual sex [source].
    Sources vary but most research originations put the number of homosexual individuals at ~10% which does not include the aforementioned one in ten, this number increases substantially when looking at Penile plethysmography tests (especially on homophobes) [source]

    Seeing that half the population is men, and 76% of men are white, 10% of which are completely homosexual, with another possible 10% that identify as straight but exclusively engage in homosexual activity plus the men who claim they are heterosexual but frequently engage in homosexual activity we easily assume that the number of total white msm is higher than the total population of black females of 6.3%.

    Even ignoring all this, as I’m sure you will cry fake nuze, while attacking the sources and without providing counter evidence, blacks females as a whole are have almost triple the risk of contracting aids than white men. This is irrefutable.

    Futhermore, White msm are seeing around a 2% drop in infection rates per year while black msm and black fsm are going up - sometimes alarmingly so or remaining stagnant.


    You can congratulate yourself now as you run to your false notion that gays only make up 0.00007 percent of the population and they all have aids except the good ones that voted for Trump. I don’t care to continue with this subject with you. You have laid your point and I have issues my counter point — the only difference is I used sources and referenced those works.

    Cya in another thread so I can prove you have no idea what you are talking about, again, for the 40th time. Cheers
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven’t heard of the men planting cameras in the women’s bathroom?
    There are hundreds of instances on google and several arrests.
     
  4. Greenleft

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    That is indeed a serious problem and absolutely needs to be addressed. I will not downplay that. I'll only say that the biggest difference is you can confront the guilty party immediately in the problem I'm discussing. All I ask is for you not to frown upon making the confrontation in the men's bathroom.
     
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    Women being cornered in alleys is a serious problem and precautions by individuals and governments have been made to address that. Precautions should also be made for men being cornered by other men in bathroom stalls.
     
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  6. dixon76710

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    That's not what they want
    Ok. I can now see you are clueless as opposed to dishonest. Nothing you've presented contradicts a thing Ive said. Your chart above doesn't even include the infection rates for white MSM so it doesn't even address your or my claim. I don't expect you to understand.
     
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    Oh, now I see what you are doing. You've taken yourself out of the clueless column and put yourself back into the dishonest. Here is your original claim you are now trying to back track from without anyone noticing.

    White MSM, that's men who have sex with men. So full of it.
     
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    Nope. Right there in the chart for all to see.
     
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  10. Polydectes

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    I'm a homosexual man and I wouldn't like it if somebody did that. I however don't think it's because they don't accept themselves. Generally the gym cruisers are out. They are just hedonistic. This happens in Parks too. One of the reasons I don't go to gay bars.
     
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    I'm a homosexual man and I wouldn't appreciate that. How about some guy wag his penis in your face? If you demand he stop it's because you feel inadequate.

    That's the dumbest thing I've yet to see you say teco
     
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    Like in Saudi Arabia? I've not come across many women who have had this experience. Some yes. So I don't think this is what it's like to be a woman.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Well don't make a thread about it. Some people find sexual harassment to be a subject that needs to be discussed.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    I don't really see it as a criticism about gay people. It's a criticism of a behavior that likely happens within every demographic.

    That being said, what the OP is talking about is sexual harassment. Tecoyah is attempting to shame someone who is speaking up against sexual harassment. It's odd behavior from someone who detests it when it is done to women or children.

    Normally it comes off as over compensating. He's so straight he wouldn't even care if he was sexually harassed by a dude.
     
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    Yes you did. You suggested that the op complaining about sexual harassment is because he feels inadequate.

    When called on it you tried to claim that it was rare. A victim of sexual harrasment shouldn't start a thread about their experience because you don't think it's common enough.

    That was really dumb.

    I know you aren't mature enough to ever admit you are wrong, but now would be the best time to grow a little as a person.
     
  16. Polydectes

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    It persists today because if the exact hedonism you spoke of in the OP. Gay men know about it.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    In the United States it is largely relegated within the male homosexual demographic. True it isn't a gay disease, anybody can get it. But have you ever been to a gay club and been propositioned by a strange man? It's the dirty little not so secret that there is a part within the demographic that is extremely promiscuous.

    Have you heard of bath houses?
     
  18. Polydectes

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    So you would think a woman pepper spraying a flasher is wrong? What difference does it make if the victim is male?
     
  19. modernpaladin

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    I do think a woman pepper spraying a flasher is wrong if all they're doing is flashing. Male/female shouldn't matter. What part of 'violence is only justified in response to violence' is confusing?
     
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    I would take it as a threat. Threatening isn't violence but you can respond with violence and it absolutely is justified.
     
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    There is normally a 'reasonable' standard applied to the interpretation of that 'threat'. In other words, its not quite enough if you feel threatened if the cops, the DA's office and potential jurors think you really over-reacted. I think this is borderline myself. Some people would feel threatened and scared. Others would just turn around and walk quickly away disgusted and irritated depending on lots of circumstances. If you are just using pepper spray, they will give it a pass. If you grab a baseball bat and smash his skull in with five swings....hum.
     
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    I broke the percentages down previously. I even sourced them - from 2016 data. If you are going to use outdated data why not just pull figures from the height of the aids crisis?

    Feel free to continue to ignore fact... that’s the one thing your kind excel at.
     
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    Oh I completely agree gay men are overly promiscuous, well — I guess it’s men in general. The problem with gay men is babies - or the lack thereof , the heterosexual men that are super conscious of protection is mainly due to not wanting to cause a pregnancy. Very rarely do one of my overly sexual heterosexual male friends mention protection being about avoiding STD’s.

    Education is the best prevention. Something that is fought against by the very people using aids statistics to bash gay people. The fact that white MSM infection rates is declining across the nation while southern states (who are rabidly anti-gay) are seeing increases in black transmission shows tons what the actual agenda is here.
     
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    I see more heterosexual sex in my face then homosexual sex... but agree, either is wrong in public - but if a man or women is having sex in front of you, no, you do not have the right to assault them, call the police, let them handle it

    though I wold question why anyone would want to get in a physical altercation with a naked man or women... best to leave and call the police
     
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    I’ve never understood the American aversion to nudity. I have visited many countries across the globe and no where else are people scared of nudity like they are in the US.

    To view it as a threat actionable by violence is just absurd to me.
     

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