"National Gun Laws" and Chicago. FAIL

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just like we solved the drug problem by making it illegal. Look! No more drug problem!

    Look at all the other problems we solved by making it illegal: No more murder, rape, assault, theft, etc. Why didn't anyone thing of that before? !!!

    Does your plan include prohibiting law enforcement from having guns?
     
  2. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    The potential also exists for every male individual in the population to become a rapist. Just as there is potential for every parent to molest their children. However that is not grounds for enacting laws to address these matters, simply because of something that may occur.
     
  3. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using your analogy, there would be no reason to have have seatbelts in cars; how much sense does that make??
     
  4. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Are you suggesting that the united states should subscribe to implementing laws based solely on the fact that some development may actually occur at some point down the road?
     
  5. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I am not.
     
  6. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    You're wrong. Sorry
     
  7. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    How? Just because you say it? LOL. FACT. Chicago does not enforce LMAO "National Gun Laws" and liberal own the blood bath. LOL.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    Chicago is 17th in gun deaths. 17th!
     
  9. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    With a massive crime spree concentrated in a "minority" of its population? LOL.
     
  10. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Which do you think is the most dangerous city in America?
     
  11. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Any place Democrats reside in large numbers. LOL.
     
  12. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    So you don't know? Really? Did you know Chicago does not break the top ten?
     
  13. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    No you have not answered the question. Which post do you claim you answered the question. It is a simple yes or no question.
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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  15. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    What matters is who and where the gun crimes is being committed. Large parts of Chicago are quite safe, like the White parts. The Black ones not so much.
     
  16. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    But why does that matter? What do we do with that information?
     
  17. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Start from post #1 and read forward. That way you'll have your question(s) answered.
     
  18. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    The FBI keeps track of this information. They must think there is some value to it.
     
  19. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    I am not asking the FBI. I am asking you. The FBI tracks a lot of information but THIS particular data set is VERY important to you. Why?
     
  20. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    It tells who and where the problem lies.
     
  21. TOG 6

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    Indeed.
    If Blacks committed murder at the same per capita rate as whites. the number of murders would drop 37%.
    The US murder rate is 2014 was 4.35/100k; remove that 37% and it drops to 2.8/100k.

    Clearly, the impetus behind such a hugely disproportionate number of blacks committing murder is worth looking at.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2014.xls
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2013.xls
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2012.xls
    (etc)
     
  22. Rucker61

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    Given that only about 0.012% of black commit murder (5173/42,000,000) why do we think that race is a causal effect?
     
  23. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I did not say race has a causal effect.
    There must be a reason for the disproportionately high per capita rate of murders committed by blacks; I suggested we look into this as a means to address crime in the US.
     
  24. Vegas giants

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    Why are you being so evasive. SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT INFORMATION? ROUND THEM UP?

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    I think you guys are just afraid to say out loud what you are thinking. You have identified a piece of information....so now SPECIFICALLY do we do with that information?

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    There is this code going on. What doe "look into" mean? Study it? Please go ahead. In the meantime we will try to reduce gun deaths
     
  25. OrlandoChuck

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    I don't do anything with it besides recognize it and acknowledge it. I use it to make points in debating on the forum about where our gun crime is coming from.
    When anti gun folks tout our gun homicide stats as an argument for gun control, I can correctly point out that it is not the legal gun owner that is racking up the stats, and efforts to impose gun control on those not responsible for the gun violence makes no sense.
     

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