There are good and bad areas in most cities, large or small. And parts of Chicago are among the worst of the worst with Chicago Heights coming in 30th place. https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/top-lists/highest-murder-rate-cities/ Of all the thousands of neighborhoods, one in Chicago came in at 24th worst in the nation. https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods/ Almost always, the bad areas are going to have: a large enclave of Blacks, with liberal Democrats providing poor control---of a morally debased culture. So with Chicago, 1/3 is White, 1/3 Hispanic and 1/3 Black. Hardly any of the murders involve Whites or in better areas. On the same list, Baltimore, MD has 2 of the 10 worst spots. The city is 63% Black instead of about 33% Black for Chicago. Like Chicago there are terrible liberal leaders and many gun control laws. Having a weak and spineless criminal justice system that allow felons to "be as bad as they want to be" is a primary reason for crime being high. Not because of poverty, slavery or Jim Crow.
I believe this is precisely the reason the we have such a weak justice system. The left complains about the disproportional number of blacks that are incarcerated in our prison system. To aggressively enforce our laws against violence properly, would again, disproportionately effect blacks, and imprison even more. Violent crimes carry the longest sentences, and violent gun crimes should carry the longest sentences. The left wants nothing to do with incarcerating even more blacks.
They do indeed have a problem with incarcerating people who commit gun crimes. This is why we have a revolving door justice system. This is why over 70% of those prosecuted for gun crimes are recidivists.
Why would we want to do that? Only about 1% of the Black population was arrested for a violent crime in 2015. Evidently being Black isn't a problem. Then why do they keep letting them go? http://chicagoreporter.com/thousand...-being-dismissed-cook-county-criminal-courts/ From January 2006 through August 2013, thousands of cases involving a weapons violation were thrown out in Cook County’s criminal courts, The Chicago Reporter found. More than 13,000 cases that included a gun violation have been dismissed during that period, shows the Reporter’s analysis of records maintained by the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County. In fact, more felony cases involving a gun--from illegal possession to unlawful sale to a felon--have been thrown out than cases with any other type of charge. http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/gun-shy-lighter-sentences-in-cook-county-fuel-lock-em-up-debate/ "Mayor Rahm Emanuel and police Supt. Garry McCarthy have argued that stiffer minimum sentences for gun possession are needed to help keep violent criminals off the streets. Emanuel pushed hard last year for the Illinois General Assembly to boost the minimum sentences for gun possession and to require anyone convicted to serve at least 85 percent of the sentence. But the legislation, sponsored by state Rep. Michael Zalewski, D-Riverside, failed in the face of opposition from African-American legislators and the National Rifle Association. The legislators argued that the stiffer sentences being sought would unfairly target African-Americans."
The result? Rampant violence and the "need" to limit the rights of people that have nothing to do with that violence, in an attempt to stem it. Indeed, the lax justice system is a means to that end.
This is how you debate? When you have no good rebuttal, I've noticed that you seem to respond with dumb stuff like this.
I want ALL people to held to the same standard of conduct. And if that means more Blacks sentenced, I have no problem with that. Each person of each ethnic group should be individually accountable for their actions. If a poor White Amish boy were to hold up a gas station with a pitchfork to get $200 dollars (because he is so poor)---then put him jail and make him do hard labor. If a poor Black kid from the Hood were to hold up a gas station with a knife or gun for $200 (because of poverty of course)---then punish him the same. It's called "equality."
NO you like to lump everyone in the "left", or "gun banners". So who is doing this? - - - Updated - - - I have no problem with that. It seems the NRA does.
Why do you consider them non-violent? - - - Updated - - - I must admit that is a possibility in our lifetime.
Complete ignorance on your part since you don't personally know me nor my political persuasion in general. If you base an opinion on someone based on one issue, then who is being ignorant here? If you'd have been following along chronologically through the posts, you would have known this was all hypothetical. Let's get with the program.
So then do you support a national death penalty for anyone using a gun to commit a crime, no appeals no lifetime sentences? To me seems logical you want to get rid of crime get rid of criminals.
Because they haven't committed a violent crime? - - - Updated - - - No, he wants the death penalty for anyone even possessing a gun after his admittedly draconian laws pass.
Are they going out of their way to commit harm, or looking for ways to go about committing harm to others for their own benefit?
I take no position on the hypothetical sentences at this time due to the US Constitution and Bill of Rights written as they currently are.
Then you'll want get rid of knives (five times the annual homicides of rifles), blunt objects (five times the annual homicides of shotguns) opposable thumbs (500 murders annually) and water (five times as many homicides per year as deaths to due to "assault weapons" in mass murders). And big white rental trucks.
Yeah....remember that country that banned blunt objects.....what was it again? - - - Updated - - - Yeah....remember that country that banned blunt objects.....what was it again?
Sounds good to me; if it helps to reduce violent crime, then I'm all for it! Are you in agreement as well?
Now what is the liberal reason for failing to enforce National (Federal) gun laws in Chicago again? We have to know that reason till you guys make up even more laws that won't be enforced.
You took a hypothetical stance on calling for the death sentence for peopl e who have guns if they were made illegal. So what I am getting is that you hate guns more than murders. Tell you what you can keep the murders in your neighborhood and I will keep the guns in mine and we will see who is better off. You do realize that guns are just tools that can do nothing on their own, a person willing to commit a crime is needed to use them in the wrong way.
That may be your opinion or interpretation (which you certainly have an unfettered right to) however it's not mine which I have already given. I fully realize the argument that guns don't kill, people do, but unfortunately sometimes they use guns to kill. So be it.
