Nature says global warming is real

CO2 levels were five times higher during the Jurassic period and plants and Animals thrived.

 

Trees have been in the Arctic before.

Contrary to popular belief climate change was not invented by the oil companies.

 

There were no primates, let alone humans during the Jurassic. We don't have the time or knowledge of how to devolve back to being tree-rats in order to survive Jurassic conditions.

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The land the trees grew on wasn't in the Arctic when they grew there.

 

We could survive rising heat better than excessive cold.

 

Do you wanna know how I know this is BS?

See this picture?



There aint no snow, and its all snow up there right now.

 

I'm not sure anyone with any credibility on the matter claimed it did, but the facts are pretty clear: 6 billion people are spewing CO2 into the atmosphere at a rate nature has never been able to do on before. CO2 causes temperatures to rise on any planet (we've seen that on Venus in its most extreme form). At best, our actions are only contributing to whatever natural process that's causing global warming. At worst, we are that process.

 

Straw man

This one research paper shows that there is unprecedented warming - for proof that it is man made global warming you have to look that the amount of fossil fuel (83 million barrels of oil per day) burnt each day

 

So the problem is a smiley? Wow! You guys are really insightful...

 

Sometimes snow goes away - it is called summer it is a season

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Sometimes snow goes away - it is called summer it is a season

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Sometimes snow goes away - it is called summer it is a season

 

So um.... It snowed in Texas last week, but 4500 miles north, is tropical?

Makes perfect sense...

 

Did anyone say this photo was taken last week? And yes it can be a different temperature in a different country - because of things like the Gulf stream - heard of that? Oh! and BTW trees do not grow in a week - the phenomena would have been going on for some time it is the research that is new

 

The source says its from March 11

 

Who decided "where trees should not grow"?

Obviously, NATURE DISAGREES, huh?

Please explain the horrifying damage that more arable land, and expanded forestation will wreak upon us all.....

 

Who said it was tropical 4500 miles north of Texas?

 

There's always more misunderstanding in these threads than can be addressed usefully.

1) Yes, within the last few hundred million years there have been warmer times. And humans could probably have evolved during those times, and even become technological. So the issue isn't the absolute temperature, it's the change in temperature. Today humans are squeezing everything they can and more from the biosphere. This is unsustainable for very long whether warming happens or not. So warming, simply by changing things, is almost surely going to make a lot of things harder even sooner.

2) Changing temperatures means the average global temperature is rising and might rise as much as 3 degrees over a century. That's not much absolute temperature change. But even small average changes have side effects in terms of jet streams, ocean currents, rainfall patterns, etc. It means frequent droughts where they were once rare, and frequent floods where they were once rare. It probably means more violent storms, and violent storms in unusual locations. The ocean rising half an inch isn't much. But if this translates into waves 6 feet higher during storms, that DOES mean something.

3) Climate isn't the same thing as weather. Changing climate of course influences weather, but it is NOT just every day becoming a quarter of a degree warmer. Instead, it means heat waves in the Yukon while we have July snowstorms in Georgia, and similar events.

 

It doesn't mention when the picture was taken.

 

More herehttp://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past-intermediate.htm

 

Webcams in Norway....

You guys see if you can find one without snow.....

 

1.) What is the Great Harm warming causes?

2.) The temperature hasn't risne anything even remotely close to 3 degrees

3.) "The Day After Tomorrow" was a MOVIE, not a scientific treatise. Warmists were declaring the END OF SNOWFALL as recently as 2000-2001, and as that obviously didn't pan out, changed the hysteria to the nonsense you are claiming, where ANY WEATHER CONDITION is the result of "climate change".

It is the argument of a FIVE YEAR OLD.

 

It is not unusual for a "Stock" photo to be used in an article like this - did you manage to get to page 2 of the article? The page with the map of the northern hemisphere?

 

Oh, so you think they took the picture in the summer time to mislead people ?

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A stock photo of summertime, in a article about global warming???

Kinda misleading dontcha think? Intentionally misleading maybe???

I think so...

I could see them using a stock photo if the article was about travel in Norway or something, but this is a global warming weather article.....

lies lies lies.....

 

I'd say you've pretty thoroughly busted their bullcrap...again.

Notice how the Warmost Faithful NEVER critically assess what they are spoonfed.

 

The picture could have been taken last summer. The fact that trees are growing in what was classified as tundra is not identified by one photo.

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Obviously nature decided that it was warm enough for trees to grow in what was once a treeless area.

 

Are you suggesting that that tree could have grown that large in one summer and is dead now?