Navy now has stealth destroyer

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  1. jkotan

    jkotan New Member

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    Stalingrad was not the beginning of the war, at the beginning of the war the Russians had some 5 million men at arms and they were still attacked. I have read about Stalingrad, I have Beevors book about it..good read.
     
  2. william walker

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    The French had the largest army in the world in the earlier 1700's until they were defeat by John Churchill. So the list goes on and on.

    However the point I was makes is that having a large and capable military gives you choice which them makes you much much harder to defeat. The US wasn't defeated by Al Quaeda was it? It wasn't defeated by Japan because it has already planned a military re-armament? The British weren't defeated In WW2 or in India? The Soviets weren't defeated? Which war went better for the British WW1 or WW2? It is as simple as that.
     
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    We\are not talking about being defeated, we are talking about being attacked.The question is does having a huge military stop you from being attacked and the answer is clearly no.
     
  4. william walker

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    Well has Mushroom says you are asking the wrong question. A small military means you will be attacked and why you are you are the job is made a whole lot harder.
     
  5. mikezila

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    5 million half armed men are no match against 3 million fully armed men. all they had to do is stall until winter. German winters are bad, but Russian winters are hell...and they all knew it.
     
  6. jkotan

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    I did not ask the question, that was another poster, I just answered it correctly.

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    Why don't you prove to me that at the beginning of the war 2.5 million Russian soldiers had no guns, you can do that right?
     
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    why don't you prove that the Red Army had more than 3 million men in it's western military districts while the Axis had 5.5 million ready to over run them?
     
  8. william walker

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    There was a time for 100 year when Britain wasn't even threatened by invasion.

    The US hasn't been threatened for 70 years. Because it has a large military. The Soviet Union wasn't threatened. China isn't threatened. So example all over the places where having a large army means you aren't threatened. Attacked maybe, but threatened no.
     
  9. jkotan

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    So you cannot prove your point then, ok I thought as much.
     
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    What are you on about? I have explained the question to you but you seems unable to grasp it and keep coming back with irrelevant stuff. So one last time, the question was does having a huge military stop you from being attacked, the answer is clearly no, end of story.
     
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    No the answer is yes if the government uses it in the correct manner and doesn't make mistakes.
     
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    History proves you wrong of course and you are now denying reality. I will leave it at that.
     
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    and i disproved your's. :sun:

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    huge means nothing when the other guy has more.
     
  14. jkotan

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    No you have not disproven anything, all you have done is come on here,made a claim that come from a Hollywood movie and when called to produce evidence failed to provide any. If that is your debating style you might as well give up now because no one is every going to take you seriously. I will leave it at that being as you cannot produce any evidence for your claims.
     
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    what kind of commie does it take to deny that Joe Steel was out manned, out gunned and out classed by a mad Austrian he was BFFs with?

    fact: the Red Army was out manned by the Axis at the beginning of the war and it was pure (*)(*)(*)(*)ing luck (and Hitler's own bad planning) they weren't over run.
     
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    Unfortunately this is true. It saddens me that there are people who would like to see war for these reasons.
     
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    It saddens me too. They are criminals but they have control of the nuclear weapons, drones, and destroyers. Stopping them requires more power than they have and it is very difficult to get more power than that.
     
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    That's true. I wonder what we can do to prevent further unjust wars?
     
  19. william walker

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    Do you know what the greatest weapon the US has is? No nuclear weapons, drones or destroyers, but Hollywood and McDonalds. They are main weapons the US has to increase it's influence and power. So do you want to stop These countries watching Hollywood films and eating McD's?
     
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    What to remove dictators from countries, so they have a chance at democracy and laws? Remove terrorists from foreign countries who plan to attack the US and support other dictators in the areas to help the US find and stop other attackers. How about stopping civil wars which are causing mass rape and murders to take place? Would you rather the US just sat back allowed those dictators a free run, allowed those terrorists to operate and take over countries? Is that what you want Muslims murdering Christians because the US did nothing? Like in Egypt.
     
  21. jkotan

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    Looks like that is what they have been doing thru out their history, while shipping these dictators arms to kill their own people.
     
  22. william walker

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    Which it is then bad to remove these dictators?
     
  23. jkotan

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    America never removed them,they left them in power to murder their own people, some of them they put in power in the first place.I am talking about Latin America here.That is why most Latin American governments cannot stand America.
     
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    What about the only capitalist country in Latin America? The Falklands.
     
  25. jkotan

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    What about it? It is not the only capitalist country in Latin America.
     

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