Netanyahu says "no one will stop us" in Gaza

I don't watch TV. It appears you are attacking me because you are unable to address the facts. That doesn't make them go away. You are entitled to your anti-Israel opinion.

 

What you think are facts is really propaganda.

 

Then you should have no trouble pointing out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government, in the region surrounding Israel. Otherwise, the side you are debating on behalf of is doing the cleansing.

 

Means absolutely nothing. Pay attention to what’s really happening. GENOCIDE!!!

 

So you are unable to refute the facts I posted? They mean nothing?

 

Why in the world would they protest those that are fighting the military that are killing them by the tens of thousands, especially when a future under the Israelis means they are condemned to a second class status forever if they do not get their own state? I definitely would never surrender to those that have slaughtered my family. Would you? If someone slaughtered your family, blew up your house... would you turn in those that were fighting your oppressors? I hope you are not that much of a subservient sheep. Maybe you are, I don't know.

You saying it is on the Palestinians ignores decades of oppression. Not only that, but supporting the slaughter also simply condemns Israelis to another generation of extremist attacks. Do you hate Israelis that much, that you want to condemn another generation to extremist attacks? That is all that Israel is accomplishing, creating another generation of extremists. And this time, the extremists will have international sympathy for their cause.

 

You haven't mentioned any facts yet, just delusion.

 

You are the one promoting a genocidal policy that will only ending up creating another generation of extremists, as well as turn the world, including the USA, against them. YOU are anti Israel.

 

They don't even know what Israel stands for.

 

So you are admitting that what is being done is supported by the Palestinian people. I agree with you.

Please refrain from making this about me. Stick with the topic and keep the discussion within forum rules. I am not promoting anything but peace. Release the hostages, leave the Jews alone, and work on improving the lives of the Palestinian people. They could have a quality life with the right leadership.

 

Israel has stated that they couldn't continue their action in Gaza without the military support given to them by the USA.

WE are making the starvation of Gaza possible.

Those who promote and support Israel's action in Gaza do not have clean hands.

 

How many Native Americans perished to bring the USA into existence? None of the atrocities you mentioned happened with US support; that is obviously not the case in Gaza:

"Israel has killed over 100 aid workers in Gaza in the last week.."

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/oper...1&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines+RSS+Automation

• "31,988 + killed* and at least 74,188 wounded in the Gaza Strip.
• 435+ Palestinians killed in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.**
• Israel revises its estimated October 7 death toll down from 1,400 to 1,147.
• 594 Israeli soldiers killed since October 7, and at least 3,221 injured.***"

 

Chris has been one of my go-to sources for years on Gaza; he rightly points out how Israel has used the sea to effect its ethnic cleansing long before today:

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/...ue&r=cqtc&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

"...Israel, which has no intention of halting its murderous siege of Gaza, including its policy of enforced starvation, appears to have found a solution to its problem of where to expel the 2.3 million Palestinians.

"If the Arab world will not take them, as Secretary of State Antony Blinken proposed during his first round of visits after Oct. 7, the Palestinians will be cast adrift on ships.

"It worked in Beirut in 1982 when some eight and a half thousand Palestine Liberation Organization members were sent by sea to Tunisia and another two and a half thousand ended up in other Arab states.

"Israel expects that the same forced deportation by sea will work in Gaza."

 

How many rape cases from October 7th have been documented? Is that number greater or less than the 40 beheaded babies lie? Jews have always been their own worse enemies.

 

I didn't know it was an acronym. Please tell us!

 

While you and I weren't there, there is sufficient evidence to show that women and girls were violated according to left leaning sources, that are often critical of Israel. Considering how women are treated under that leadership, it is not hard to believe.

 

Doesn’t matter. He was making it up anyway,

 

There's far more actual evidence showing the claims of systematic rape on the part of Palestinians on October 7th are yet one more example of Israeli hasbara (systematic lies):

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/07/media-concocts-un-hamas-rape-report/

"Western media promoted a UN report as proof Hamas sexually assaulted Israelis. Yet the report’s authors admitted they couldn’t locate a single victim, suggested Israeli officials staged a rape scene, and denounced 'inaccurate forensic interpretations.'"

 

So you are discrediting hasbara using the gray zone? Ironic.

 

See if you can avoid using any ad hominem fallacies while demonstrating your knowledge of ZAKA transcends that of Grayzone

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/12/06/scandal-israeli-october-7-fabrications/

"Founded by a serial rapist known as the 'Haredi Jeffrey Epstein,' Israeli ultra-Orthodox rescue group ZAKA is responsible for some of the most obscene post-October 7 atrocity fabrications, from beheaded babies to 'mass rape' to a fetus cut from its mother."

 

Your use of "hasabara" is a malapropism. See The Real Meaning of "Hasbarah" for a translation.

 

I made no such fallacy. I was pointing out your biased sources. That is not an attack on you.

 

Zionism is a settler-colonial project dedicated to the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. It is inherently illegal and can not be accomplished with systemic lying.

Your link:

"To many of Israel’s critics, however, 'hasbarah' is something more sinister.

"Among the definitions of it that you will find on the Internet are: 'a selected dissemination of Zionist propaganda as fact'; a web of 'fabrications, half-truths, and downright lies' spun on Israel’s behalf; 'a [form of] communication calculated to influence cognition and behavior by manipulating perceptions of [Israel’s] cause or position with one-sided arguments, prejudicial substance, and emotional appeals'; 'a cynical attempt to flood the web and news media with favorable flackery in a vain attempt to tilt public opinion toward Israel,' and a “policing of social networks for Israel” by a 'hasbarah troll brigade.'"

There's no shortage of hasbara in the latest genocide in Gaza.

MARCH 15, 2024
Smoke and Mirrors: How Israeli Agitprop Lies Become Fact

 

It was an unsubstantiated attack on my source which did nothing to explicitly refute the central points it makes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Types_of_ad_hominem_arguments

 

Yeah. Cause nobody tells lies about their enemies.

Like Hamas, Iran and Russia aren't flooding the internet with BS. Two days ago, propagandists said Israel was responsible to the Moscow attack.

Palestine is the name the Romans gave the region after they ethnically cleansed the Jews from Judea. Palestinian is not an ethnicity. These people are Arabic. The Arabs have plenty of land have been expanding for thousands of years. Before 1900, there wasn't a Palestinian Identity. The people between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River were merely identified Syrian, Muslim and Arabic.

Like anyone really gives a damn about ethnicity. 900,000 had either left Muslim countries to avoid religious apartheid and persecution.

It's absolutely astonishing to me that neither Egypt, Jordan nor other Arabic State will take in refugees. The excuses for failing to take refugees is absolutely atrocious. It's obvious that the only concern for Pro-Palestine side is to let Palestinians die just to play up this genocide narrative. They just want to get Hamas without having to go through Civilians.

This whole region would look like Wakanda if Muslims weren't such an impediment to societal advancement. There's a population of 8 million Jews pumping out some of the most mind-blowing inventions and infrastructure projects. It's a shame