Netanyahu says "no one will stop us" in Gaza

Why can’t anyone explain the simple fact that if Israel truly wanted to wipe out every Palestinian why haven’t they done it long ago? We all know they could do it in a week or less, yet it’s never happened. And the closest thing is only AFTER they were ruthlessly attacked.

A tiny country surrounded by a continent of safe areas controlled by Muslims, yet the Jews just can’t be left alone. THEY are the aggressors People just can’t read a map or think logically. Yet look at who these people are. They still treat women like cattle.

 

You are incorrect. I do not consume media products without question. Your source is known for bias and I do not accept it as reliable. Not being gullible is not the same thing as an ad hom. Please stick to the topic.

Here are the facts you have been unable to refute.

The leadership in the region surrounding Israel works to cleanse the land of Jews. (And other minorities) They have been successful in most of the region and there is one tiny scratch of land they have not yet cleansed. Knowing that they cannot start a war with Israel and win, they exploit Palestinians and enjoy plausible deniability and public sympathy. I also have sympathy for these people. If only they had leadership that cared about them.

 

It's far more likely the CIA or MI6 bears some level of responsibility for murdering civilians on the outskirts of Moscow.

From 23 March:

"'We still don’t know how many shooters there were. We don’t know what the weapons were. We don’t know what the firearms were. We don’t know what the explosives were. We don’t know how many were actually killed, how many wounded, but yet the US State Department knows that it was not Ukraine,' stated former CIA and State Department analyst Larry Johnson, according to Sputnik.

"This indicates that the US government has no grounds to declare that there is no Ukrainian connection to the terrorist attack that claimed the lives of innocent Russians in Moscow.

"The former analyst then highlighted another significant point stating that the statement 'comes on a day that one of the CIA propaganda outlets came out and said that the Biden administration and the intelligence community were very concerned about what they call ‘brazen’, unwarranted attacks by Ukraine.'"

https://english.almayadeen.net/news...yst-suspects-washington-knew-about-the-attack

 

Indigenous Palestinians had owned legal title to farms, homes, businesses and bank accounts in Palestine for generations before European Jews ethnically cleansed 700,000 Palestinians from those assets.

Palestinians comprised the "...existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine" in November of 2017 when His Majesty's Government promised a "national home" for the Jewish people in Palestine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."

Have you noticed any indication Jews have been prejudicing the civil and religious right of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine recently?

 

Why would you believe Jews are that capable militarily when they haven't been able to exterminate Hamas AFTER almost six months of plausible genocide?

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/oper...5&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines+RSS+Automation

"Eyewitness accounts continue to emerge from Gaza’s hospitals, including rape, torture, mass executions, and soldiers crushing Palestinian bodies with tanks. Hamas says Israel's systematic attack on hospitals is central to its "war of extermination."

 

The topic was Israeli hasbara regarding systemic sexual assaults committed by Hamas on October 7th, remember?

My refutation was based on an article in the Grayzone written by Max Blumenthal who's been writing about the Israeli occupation of Palestine for decades. His research includes spending time in Gaza during Operation Protective Edge.

You made no attempt to refute any of the content in Blumenthal's Grayzone article but rather resorted to a blanket ad hominem rejection of Grayzone's credibility.

If you find any claims in Max's interpretation of the events of October 7th to be incorrect, please post your views without resorting to any informal fallacies.

 

it appears as though you are trying to discredit a source. Hmmm.

 

Israel was the name assigned by G-d to Jacob.

 

Was that decoration really in 2017?

 

They rely very heavily on support from western countries, and for that they rely on posturing for the moral high ground. Simply going in and doing wanton open visible genocide without provocation would have lost them that support that they rely on. When Israel loses the perceived moral high ground globally, that could lead to the end of Israel. So they needed an excuse and this appears to be it.

They may be overstepping though as even much of the US is now against Israel's actions. Especially after the recent drone footage showing the 4 people walking down an open dirt road with little else around them (seemingly unarmed) and being first hit with a missile, and then as the one who survived is trying to crawl to safety is killed with a follow up shot. Zero explanation from Israel. It looks very very bad for them.

 

There was another similarly titled declaration in
1926:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

"For the document on the Dominions of the British Empire, see Balfour Declaration of 1926.

"Balfour Declaration

"The original letter from Balfour to Rothschild; the declaration reads:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

"Created 2 November 1917

"Location British Library

"Author(s) Walter Rothschild, Arthur Balfour, Leo Amery, Lord Milner

"Signatories Arthur James Balfour

"Purpose Confirming support from the British government for the establishment in Palestine of a 'national home' for the Jewish people, with two conditions

"Full text
Balfour Declaration at Wikisource

"The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917"

 

Since when is winning a war someone else starts genocide?

 

While I don't believe in god, I do believe that Jews have a valid claim to the land.

 

I'm not sure, sometimes you have to wonder why people that represent 0.2% of the world population punch so far above their weight.

 

Part of why Jews have that leverage raises the question of why have Jews been persecuted regularly over the last 2000 years.

Even Henry Kissinger had similar questions.

Walter Isaacson's 1992 biography, Kissinger, makes that clear:

https://www.newsweek.com/henry-kissinger-say-i-would-antisemitic-jewish-something-wrong-1848303

"Isaacson wrote that following Israel's violation of a 1973 ceasefire with Egypt, 'Kissinger grumbled at one WSAG meeting, "If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be anti-Semitic.'"

"'In other moments of exasperation, he would note that 'any people who have been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.'"

 

As far as the Jews punching above their weight it may have something to do with the fact that Jews produce and don't just reproduce. Their may be a divine hand in their continued existence and prominence despite their insignificant amount of the population.

 

Israel only exists as a Jewish state because of western imperial powers. The UK promised a Jewish homeland in Palestine in 1917, and for the next 30 years Jews hid behind an iron wall of British bayonets.

By 1948 Jewish terrorist organizations had driven their British benefactors from Palestine (along with over 700,000 indigenous non-Jews). In 1967 Israeli Jews (illegally) occupied the remaining 20% of Palestine.

There's no divine hand protecting Israel.
When the US stops supplying 70% of the weapons Israel is using in Gaza and diplomatic cover at the UN, the racist, apartheid state of Israel will cease to exist.

 

So you’re saying they’re really BAD at genocide? Maybe because it’s not genocide. /eyeroll

And your Hamas quote is funny. Hamas shoots rockets from Hospital then blame Israel for trying to exterminate them for destroying where the rockets are coming from? That’s called human shields kiddo. Maybe instead of looking at Israel you might ask what kind of sick humans use a hospital as a military platform?

 

Yeah. Try applying that to a certain other Demographic and see how it spins

And as far as doing it wrong. Excelling in everything we do through hard work, family and prioritizing education, can certainly be interpreted as “wrong” in the eyes of those who can’t.

 

Hamas has a legal right to resist Israel's illegal military occupation of Palestine; therefore, Jews are prohibited from simultaneously occupying territory and declaring war upon civilians living under their illegal occupation.

When the Jews of Israel end their occupation, and Palestinians return to their homes stolen over the past 75 years, Hamas will no longer have any need to fire rockets from hospitals or anywhere else.

As for genocide"

"The Israeli army announced it has killed 200 Palestinians in al-Shifa Hospital and its vicinity since its second raid on the hospital started 11 days ago. Meanwhile, Israeli media says the military is preparing for the invasion of Rafah."

"Casualties

• 32,552 + killed* and at least 74,980 wounded in the Gaza Strip.
• 450+ Palestinians killed in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.**
• Israel revises its estimated October 7 death toll down from 1,400 to 1,139.
• 597 Israeli soldiers have been killed since October 7, and at least 3,221 injured.***"

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/oper...8&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines+RSS+Automation

 

How do you spin two thousand years of antisemitism?
Rational observers would tend to suspect some qualities exhibited by some "chosen" Jews are sociopathic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism

"The history of antisemitism, defined as hostile actions or discrimination against Jews as a religious or ethnic group, goes back many centuries, with antisemitism being called 'the longest hatred'.[1]

"Jerome Chanes identifies six stages in the historical development of antisemitism:[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism

1. "Pre-Christian anti-Judaism in Ancient Greece and Rome which was primarily ethnic in nature
2. Christian antisemitism in antiquity and the Middle Ages which was religious in nature and has extended into modern times
3. Muslim antisemitism which was—at least in its classical form—nuanced, in that Jews were a protected class
4. Political, social and economic antisemitism during the Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment Europe which laid the groundwork for racial antisemitism
5. Racial antisemitism that arose in the 19th century and culminated in Nazism
6. Contemporary antisemitism which has been labeled by some as the new antisemitism"

 

Does that entitle you to special privileges over those you regard as inferior? For example, do Jews have a right to murder non-Jews in Gaza by denying food and water?

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/n...-children-show-gazas-forced-starvation-crisis

 

Good one. There won't be any Jews left to butcher.

 

No, but people are entitled to the fruits of their accomplishments for sure.

 

What are the fruits of land theft, collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, and genocide?