New CDC Report on Excess Deaths and COVID

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    You quoted my answer!
     
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    Your “answer” was another question. Now explain the discrepancy of the CDC declaring no higher pneumonia deaths this year versus previous years, and how that disagrees with the number of excess deaths this year if only 6% were COVID-only deaths. What are all of these excess deaths dying of if not only pneumonia and COVID-19?
     
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    Once again. Covid-19 is the leading cause of many pneumonia deaths"
     
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    But there aren’t any excess pneumonia deaths. The CDC said so.
     
  5. kreo

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    The chain of events is simple.
    Coronations COVID-19 might kill directly by causing adverse reaction of human body.
    COVID-19 also can exacerbate existing health issues as any common cold virus.
    We know that 100000 had pneumonia and COVID-19, but it does not mean that COVID-19 was a cause of deadly pneumonia.
    We also have about 150000 people that did not have pneumonia but died with COVID-19 due to pre-existing health problem.
    We do not know how many of those 150,000 have died due to COVID-19 and how many died due to other causes, or from other common cold or flue or whatever reason.
    All we know that they died and their test was positive, or because doctor put COVID-19 as a diagnosis to increase hospital revenue.
    No matter how you slice it, we cannot claim that COVID-19 is responsible for 250,000 deaths.
     
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  6. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol. Your reply to my saying: Your inability to understand the chain of events that doctors are required to put on death certificates, is that you blab out evidence that you don't understand the chain of events that doctors are required to put on death certificates?

    Cute.

    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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  7. kreo

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    Whatever your point is, I have no idea what doctors are doing.
    All I see is a statistical lie, the measurements are done in absolute numbers, without adjustment and without any kind of critical thinking.
     
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    Errrr yes we do

    Covid causes a unique “signature” of events within the body
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    So.....why have more people died this year than previous years? Why are doctors in Europe also attributing deaths to Coronavirus?
     
  10. kreo

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    Yes, it is called ARDS caused by SARS-CoV-2
    But then number people who has died directly from COVID-19 does not justify lock-downs and suppression of human rights..
     
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    Yes, more people has died because of the (natural or artificial) mutation of the common cold coronavirus, that is about 100,000.
    Other excess of death is attributed because mortality is increasing in recent years due to aging population, and because there was no flue pandemic in 2019.
     
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    You only don't want to know what they are doing, because you don't want to know.

    The death certificate process is pretty detailed. Should you care to educate yourself, it is not that complicated.
     
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    All at once? All over the world?
     
  14. kreo

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    Yes, in those countries that are generally dying. Europe and USA.
     
  15. Bowerbird

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    And India? And Brazil? And.............

    How do you explain the sudden increase in deaths in aLl those countries?
     
  16. kreo

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    I do not know anything about that. It could be that they are under the same shadow government as US and EU.
    E.g. China have almost zero cases, since it is more independent then so called western world.
     
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    Ah, the Lizard Men again, that explains it.

    Talk about the failure of education. HOW do so many people believe this ****?
     
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  18. Bowerbird

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    No they are independent countries (India is a “shadow government :roll:)

    All the “Coronavirus is a hoax” arguments fall apart when the global picture is viewed
     
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    I don’t often post this but when I do it is because........:p

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  20. kreo

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    Are you complaining about the absence of special education facilities aka concentration camps?
    Indeed some people do not follow official propaganda and lie.
     
  21. Bowerbird

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    No we are complaining that many seem ignorant of the fact there are lands beyond America
     
  22. kreo

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    The ignorant people are those that believe in official propaganda.
    If propaganda is presenting only absolute numbers, that alone is a anti science.
    The deaths due to COVID-19 and death that involves COVD-19 are two different things, but all we hear is that 250,000 died due to COVID-19.

    It is your choice to believe in lie, not mine.
     
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  23. Bowerbird

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    You have yet to address how this “propaganda” is in every country in the world
     
  24. kreo

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    Coronavirus is a not a hoax but hysteria associated with Coronavirus, destruction of economy, suspension of human rights is much worse then any virus.
     
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    Don't you know about globalization?
     

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