New gun club in Dallas - will the nRA support it?

then you admit all you are doing is projecting your own terror on us....thanks for clearing that up.

 

I never said take away your guns, just assault/automatic/handguns. Cannot you not defend yourself with a bolt action rifle or shotgun or musketry? Btw, polititics have nothing to do with this; I have several friends who are on both sides of the political fence who believe all guns should be taken away.

Would help a lot if you practice what you preach.

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James, once again you are confused. Both you and I will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

 

It would help if you understood the reason behind out BoR's, once your able to do that then you know the reason for II Amendment.

 

I understand them enough to form a viewpoint whether you or anyone else here agrees with me or not. I'm sure you'll agree that under the first amendment we all have freedom of speech.

 

But why do we have the BoR's?

In your opinion what was the reason behind it. Your opinion of course.

 

To guarantee certain rights, subject to interpretation by SCOTUS.

 

Who demanded those rights?

 

....only if we agree with you...........

 

Oil and water have a greater chance of mixing before I'd agree with you. We're on different sides of the table in here.

 

Clarify please, when you say "assault/automatic/handguns" do you mean fully automatic handguns? Or do you mean all "assault" rifles and semi automatic handguns? Because words mean things and I like to understand what you mean, exactly.

Why on earth would law abiding citizens be relegated to using muskets to defend themselves with? What sense would that make? Why would you want your mother to be "protected" by muskets when the criminals who would be threatening her safety/life have AK's? Would you expect the same from your local police dept.?

I would want my loved one, should they ever have the need to return fire, to have an AR with a standard 30 round magazine in order to give them the best chance of surviving the attack.

So why muskets?

 

All rifles that are anything other then bolt action; all handguns regardless of size or caliber.

Some people might find it desirable to have the option of firing a musket as opposed to using a bolt action rifle or shotgun.
I would want my loved one, should they ever have the need to return fire, to have an AR with a standard 30 round magazine in order to give them the best chance of surviving the attack.

Ever seen the hole a musket can put into a person?? While it might take a while to reload, a well placed shot will put your enemy down for quite a while.

 

What good would that do? Serious question.

Great if you are facing one threat, which is routinely not the case with home invasions. I have a 12 gauge at the ready to repel home invasions and I keep it loaded with 4 rounds of 00 buck followed by three rounds of 3" Magnum 000 buckshot. Not some one shot musket. Why? Because I take the safety of my family seriously, and I don't regard myself as some sort of trick shot musketeer so I want as many rounds available as I can when/if violence should visit itself upon me or my family.

I think you are wanting to limit law abiding citizen's capacity to defend themselves, and I think I know why, but am not sure.

So why do you want to limit the law abiding to single shot devices?

 

If we ban enough guns, we could be like Chicago.
http://heyjackass.com/

 

we aren't even on the same continent...............anyone who can say that owning a gun is the same as owning a nuke has a definite perception problem.

 

please breathe..here's proof the NRA won't be supporting the Blacks, regardless of what they may claim in the press,

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112322/gun-control-racism-and-nra-history

 

This is silly.

 

I wonder how many black people have been killed by police and how many have been killed by other black people? While I agree that the rate at which black people are being killed is truly epidemic, I hardly think that it is the police that is the problem.

I'd say that since black people have the same means of acquiring a CHL as white people do, that SYG laws are not actually benefiting anyone more than the other. The real difference is that white people tend to keep their hands to themselves more often and that is what keeps more white people from being shot by black people. If black people would keep their hands to themselves then they wouldn't be shot in a SYG scenario.

Couldn't possibly be black people's "Stop Snitching" campaign, could it. :/

Is exactly what my people have been saying all along. Why did it take you so long to come to the same conclusion?

You can't possibly be under the impression that the black community is unarmed. They have guns everywhere, just not lawfully. How do you function in the world at all and not know that?

The only people who are praising the open carry movement are the open carry "demonstrators" themselves. The rest of us think that they are actually causing more harm than good. I think that the "in your face" approach is not the best way to go in this regard.

And this isn't about "black people", it's about the New Black Panthers goose stepping and saying black power a lot, a clear attempt at intimidation. Nothing more than a hate group trying to be noticed.

 

You do realize there are thousands of black NRA members, right? What the NRA doesn't support are hate groups.

 

I guess you want a higher percentage of shootings in self defense to be fatalities....

The thing is, the most efficient means of self defense is the modern semi-automatic handgun--aka the same thing most policemen have on their hips. A rifle or shotgun is much harder to maneuver inside of a house or apartment. When my family was out, I experimentally tried to walk around the house with my shotgun, with the idea of how I would be able to defend my kids (who's bedrooms are on the other side of the house). It was hard to do without bumping into things, etc. I tried the same with my pistol. No problems. In addition, pistol bullets penetrate much less than do effective shotgun shells, or especially, than bolt action rifle bullets. With my bolt action rifle, I could easily shoot through pretty much all the interior walls in my house. Not an especially safe home defense gun.

Anybody who wants guns taken away doesn't think that the physically weak deserve to be able to defend themselves.

 

So no lever action or pump rifles? How about single shot break action rifles? What about my single shot handgun (that has a 14 inch barrel and is intended for hunting/target shooting)?

 

On many plantations, black slaves far outnumbered the white residents. Guns prevented any uprising.

Guns enabled the entire worldwide slave trade and the increased colonization (destruction) of several continents. Considering this fact, it seems ironic that the NRA is claiming that limiting guns is racist.

 

Black kids are twice as likely to be killed by police as white kids. Source; http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/police-killings-data/14060357/

Actually, white people are far more like to be be killed, raped or assaulted by other white people than by black people.

You need to read the news more. The anger from the black community is due to the fact that so many unarmed, young black men are being killed by police.

If the black panthers promote hate, then the FBI should shut them down. They should do the same with any other group that promote hate.

 

That proves nothing. Newrepublic is a lefty rag....
NRA has Black spokesperson now to try to live down this myth.
NRA is for ALL peoples rights to legally own firearms if they choose to.

 

I'm not sure I understand the question.



Great if you are facing one threat, which is routinely not the case with home invasions. I have a 12 gauge at the ready to repel home invasions and I keep it loaded with 4 rounds of 00 buck followed by three rounds of 3" Magnum 000 buckshot. Not some one shot musket. Why? Because I take the safety of my family seriously, and I don't regard myself as some sort of trick shot musketeer so I want as many rounds available as I can when/if violence should visit itself upon me or my family.

I honestly don't see how it reduces anyone's capacity to defend themselves since you can use all the ammo you want to use without restriction. The 12 gauge is an excellent weapon to defend yourself with; my friends all tell me that it is a relative easy weapon to reload should you need to; however given the damage it can do, I believe the chances are that you won't need to reload unless you have a small army of people entering your house and if that't the case the chances are that there is nothing you'll be able to do to stay alive.

 

Your entitled to your opinion. Just we both don't agree on anything.

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Nope, kiss them all goodbye. Just what I described in my earlier post.