New Pfizer drug and ivermectin

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Congress critters certainly did. I find it funny that people claim Trump never listened to any advice yet he did listen to what the medical community said, good and bad. He ain't no doctor but Fauci the liar is.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you reckon Donald has any friends in the pharmaceutical industry?
     
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    I have a personal story about this. I know someone that I won’t mention their name or how I know them. However this person recently came down with COVID. This was this week. I was very concerned and made them go to the doctor. This person tested positive for COVID and had pneumonia in his x-rays.

    This person was stubborn and did not want to take the drugs the doctor wanted to give. Drive me nuts I was about to go crazy! Anyway, this person got their hands on some Ivermectin. This person so bad they could not even talk on the phone, dry heaving, puking if they ate, coughing like crazy etc. they day after they took ivermectin they talked on the phone easily, wasn’t coughing but maybe 1/4 as bad. I’m serious, I’m amazed. I was opposed to this method and now I may not be. It was so unbelievable! I went from scared for this person to happy they did what they did. Stubborn dip anyway but wow.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have a friend who tells a very similar story with Ivermectin from last year.

    But HUSH, Phauci and Pharma do not want those stories told. If the American people knew that they could have been successfully treated with Ivermectin instead of taking the clot shots they might get mad. More likely they would avert their eyes and remain blissfully ignorant of reality.
     
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    Good grief your one anecdote is nonsense .. Ivermectin doesn't work 100% of the time .... people get nasty diseases and die from them .. but it has been proven to help a whole lot -- hence the dude winning the nobel prize for its invention.

    Who cares what his vax status is ? what difference does that make .. Ivermectin is for pneumonia ..a different war than the viral infection.. .. vaxed or unvaxed - should still be treating for pneumonia .. like we always do .. vitimins - (various elixers) - anti-biotics if pneumonia is getting bad .. and "Ivermectin" anti inflammatory - anti-parasite.

    Step 1) stop injesting the Blue Biden Fauci propaganda Step 2) go learn what pneumonia war is vs the war on your immune system.
     
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    Three weeks into it? Just as with many things, time is of the essence. Once the damage is done, sometimes there is no fixing it.

    I know a number of people who are taking Ivermectin as a preventative, along with quercetin and a few other things. A couple believe they were already exposed to the virus, but no ill effects other than feeling like crap for about a week.

    Who knows. Coincidence or truth.... yet there are those who cannot understand that personal choice is not situational. You either support it, or you don't.
     
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    Those who promote Ivermectin and have personal connections to those who tried it must remember that just like it’s impossible to tell whether the vaccine helped someone to have mild symptoms, it’s hard to tell if their own immune systems fought off the pathogen or whether that drug contributed to their recovery. 99% of Covid patients recover regardless of the treatment they get, if any at all. That is the reason why I never claim that regeneron helped me recover from Covid myself - our friends who infected us live in another state and didn’t have access to regeneron and they, unvaccinated, had mild symptoms too. I have relatives who are vaccinated and claim their vaccines helped with symptoms, but I just don’t see enough proof that this correlation has any real causation.
     
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    This is all true. I took HDQ (with Zinc and Vit D) after a week of fevers, no appetite, and a whole lot more. The doctor only offered my Tylenol and OTC Cough Medicine. With HDQ, me and my wife quickly got better 1.5 days for fevers to go away. Now it may have just been that the original CV-19 variant I had was running its course, or it could have been the HDQ, but I'll never know. It really did "feel" like the HDQ was part of it. Who knows. My fully vaccinated mother got CV-19 and claims the vaccines helped her live through it.

    I have a strong strong feeling with the Ivermectin results seen in Mexico City and all of India that it helps. Those results seem too strong. It's also troubling that the Phizer therapeutic drug works just like Ivermectin, but not with as many mechanisms to fight the virus. They are very similar. It reeks of profit over healthcare.

    again... this is a fantastic video on the topic by a real doctor that works in the field.

     
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    Personal choice is ALWAYS situational... When it comes to treatments for disease, I'm all for choosing what you put in your own body. What I'm against is having hospital's be ordered to do something against their protocols, but that doesn't seem to be challenged much anymore.

    Here's another similar case, where a woman transferred her husband out of state to get the treatment he (or she) wanted. Great solution.

    He died yesterday

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-whose-wife-won-court-160446612.html
     
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    No, personal choice is NOT situational, and that is the problem.

    You either believe that YOU have the right to make choices about your life, your body and your mind, or you don't. It also means that you do NOT have the right to make choices for other people. Once you no longer support that personal right, then you have NO personal rights. Other people have 100% control over anything to do with you as an individual. Welcome to slavery.
     
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    Exactly!
    Several years ago I got very sick. It was a time some bad flu was around. So, after about a week of being very sick I go to a doctors office, he tested me for flu and it was negative. I went home with nothing, but I started to quickly recover on the next day. I was thinking later - if the doc prescribed me something at that time I would think it was that drug, but in reality it would have been a coincidence.
     
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    Isn't that the one that kills 50% of the people who take it ? could be a different one I'm thinking of ..
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was designed to fight covid .. .. you don't know what covid is.. Hint: 2 wars .. one which the vax fights .. the other which Ivermectin fights.
     
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    Do you know what is even more effective? Lying on your stomach for about 8 hours a day - I am NOT joking! It is called “Awake Proning”

    https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00356-8/fulltext

    well, that and a therapy called “High Flow Nasal Prongs”
     
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    WTF??? Is this another weird claim from somewhere like “Natural News”?
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    Since you have not included any citations - probably IS a different one you are thinking of
     
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    Man Flu????
     
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    Yep because Medical and Nursing staff who have spent years studying diseases know less than “sum bloke on da internetz “
     
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    Ooops! Another claim unsupported by citation
     
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    Hey, we, men, have the absolute right to get sick and act like we are dying! :nod:
     
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    Probably.
     
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    Likely you're thinking of Remdesivir.

    Under the CARES Act, hospitals who administer Remdesivir to patients get a $20000 'bonus' per patient. Profits are looking up...
     
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    Rendisivir kills 50%?
     
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    I think it kills 1 out of 3 to whom it is administered. Just going from memory from reading RFK's book. It might kill more than that. It is Tony's favorite drug, but it is lethal to many.
     
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    First time I hear this.
    Do you have any links that aren’t too looney?
     

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