New poll: Majority of Americans oppose Supreme Court ruling on abortion

Yes now every miscarriage becomes a possible crime scene. Are we going to investigate every miscarriage, and are we going to force those women who miscarriaged to provide samples.

That will get messy.

 

As in any life decision, who stands to lose the most? A bit of self interest and protection should weigh in when she is making the decision where to take the relationship. I've raised boys and I've raised girls and I know who is left to carry the weight. Choice is a broad term that covers a lot of chances to make mistakes in life. There is a price on all of them.

 

She's already made a major mistake or she wouldn't need an abortion in the first place.

 

A simple way by which to gauge the accuracy of this poll is to look at each individual State abortion law that's passed. Remember legislatures represent the will of the people.

 

You may argue that it is not a human being but there is no question that it is alive. That you can have the death of the fetus or the mother without immediately taking the life of the other demonstrates that it is a separate being.

 

If they are denied healthcare after discussion with their doctor because the state steps in then they do not have that autonomy.

Are you saying that if they intentionally cause an abortion as long as it is done by themselves then it is ok?

 

Even under Roe there was limits to that "autonomy". The Dodd case only argued to push back the point of viability from 24 weeks to 15. Abortion has always been subject to limitations.

 

And most people agreed there were needed limits when a fetus became viable or should feel pain — that is where most laws were drawn. Doctors also usually do not recommend abortion after a specific time due to the risks to the mother.

Know any medical procedures men have that you believe the government should be involved in?

 

I don't know of any that end another life.

 

I would suggest anyone interested in science over opinions read this. It’s of European origin so don’t fear US anti abortion propaganda.

https://www.justthefacts.org/am-sit...mmission-of-inquiry-into-foetal-sentience.doc

Some pull quotes.

It’s a good read if one is interested in what that little bastard is up to in there.

 

Should the government be allowed to force medical decisions if it saves a “life”?

 

Irrelevant. Men can't carry the life of another within their body. The whole point of the viability argument is the recognition that the State has an interest in protecting the life of the baby.

 

That one comes up from time to time with controversial results.

 

We don't know that for sure .. but matters not .. abortion corrects the mistake .. so all good in the hood

 

Well it may be a bit harder to use your ultimate solution, maybe not if you live in a State guided by the same lack of principals.

 

sorry, that was republicans that want to kill poor people after they were born against the mothers wishes


"Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

"But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."

 

I don't believe so.

 

That's not at all what was said.

I am not sure what is so hard to grasp about this concept.

The federal government has a specific list of issues for which they are eligible to legislate. The Constitution states that if the issues is not enumerated to the Federal Government, it should be determined by the People and the individual States.

Why is that complicated?

 

So the state has an interest in protecting the life of a fetus or zygote but not a school age child getting shot, not in trying to prevent communicable diseases, not in providing clean water and air, not in making sure they are housed, clothed and fed — but only born even if it is to an underage parent that has been raped and doesn’t want the child.

This is disgusting.

 

I am asking your opinion. Yes or no?

 

Sort of like the victims of abortions, right? Over sixty million abortions since 1973, so just how many need be done before the unintelligent learn how to use a contraceptive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

We should, clearly we are more intelligent than most Californians.. Could be the reason so many have relocated here and Montana

 

You're making a bs argument. If the past two years of covid escaped your attention let me sum it up for you. The government basically shutdown the country because it had an interest in saving life from a disease. The government continues to enforce rules regarding covid exposure.

 

why does the right think some life is less valuable than others?

if your poor, your life is not worth as much?

"Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

"But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."

 

What were old W's overall positions on abortion?