New poll: Majority of Americans oppose Supreme Court ruling on abortion

That should not be relevant, and this should not be about anyone's beliefs. This is a Constitutional issue. The fact is that this SCOTUS decision strips the 4th Amendment rights from women, and allows the states to ignore Section 1 of the 14th.

 

pre or post birth?

and do they support free medical care pre and post birth for all children

or do they feel only rich kids deserve the best health care?

 

How is anyone being treated unequally according to abortion laws?

 

Where am I wrong? Does the 4th not guarantee us the right to privacy in our persons and affairs? Does it not protect us from "unreasonable searches and seizures"? What "search" could possibly be more unreasonable that that of one's own body?

Does Section 1 of the 14th not prevent states from violating those rights?

Sorry, but just saying "you're wrong" or the equivalent thereof doesn't fly. In my opinion (and I'm definitely not alone), the SCOTUS is now a right wing activist body of our government. They had an agenda, and those "hundreds of years of combined experience" allowed them to spin even the Bill of Rights. The last three, the Trump nominees, were specifically chosen by this organization:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society

"Many members of the Federalist Society favored overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that permitted abortion, prior to its overturning in 2022. The organization tends to favor judges who take conservative stances on abortion rights and other social issues. Members of the Federalist Society have presented oral arguments in every single abortion case that has been before the Supreme Court since 1992."

Mitch McConnell is a long time member, and it was he who picked Trump's nominees. Notice the names on this list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society#Notable_members

It was a long game, and the Democrats were too inept to prevent them from winning. Young women and girls as young as 12 will be paying for that, sometimes with their lives, for a long time to come.

 

See #129.

 

I find it mostly on the right on this forum. I rarely need to ask for sources from lefties, but righties like to post misinformation, then refuse to prove their claim.

 

What principle might that be mate .. my Spidy RINO senses are starting to tingle. ayeee wandered into a landmind did we ... Oppps .. time to high tail it out mate .. before NI bubble gets pricked.

 

Don't preach to the choir. See #129.

You did not say "there was no abortion issue in 1789," you said there was no abortion. If I misunderstood, that's on you.

 

The same people that were assaulting people because they were being asked to wear a mask and screamed it was a human rights violation and the ones cheering a woman being treated as an incubator by state force.

Spare me

 

Does the mother need the baby to survive or is it the other way around? If you answer correctly then it just proves you know mother's are care providers to the unborn baby. Why are Democrats so afraid of the democratic process? This is a moral issue and governments should not be involved. The people should decide. Unless of course you don't trust people to vote the "right" way?

 

Thanks to pro choice folks they have proven time and again a baby can be snatched from a women's body with causing harmful side effects to the mother. Why not let the democratic process decide this moral issue? Why do pro choice folks want the government to force this moral issue on everyone and make Christians pay to help mothers murder their child?

 

They who? Money always buys the best of everything, nothing new about that

I don't think it's a simple answer, it would depend on the circumstances. That's the way most things in life are.

 

I remember that and it was only after all avenues of treatment were tried and were unsuccessful. Not nearly the same thing as Democrats wanting to kill a baby that is already born.

Disgusting.

 

Yes and no. Supreme Court decisions should be about the Constitution but the Constitution is about the United States and the people in the United States ARE the US, according to the Constitution. The Constitution is not this abstract thing. standing above and ruling over the people and it was never meant to be. It is a PART of this nation, many say the best part; integral and essential to its very nature

The most important thing to remember is that it's not at straitjacket but a structure. It should ENHANCE our freedom and our rights, not limit them.

 

government should have no place deciding “morality” when it comes to one’s body, at all. That is where a hard line should be drawn. What they put in, what comes out, and defending it, or even ending it should be strictly the choice of the individual. As far as paying for stuff, if there was a way to prevent Christian’s from paying for it, I’m all for it. However, I know I end up paying for lots with tax dollars that I don’t agree with. The priority lies with individual freedom, not money.

 

I'm not sure Brown v Board would have come out the same way if the justices were checking polling data.

 

If this were a new decision. Had abortion been up to now banned and the SCOTUS upheld that ban pending legislation to the contrary that would be one thing. I'd still disagree with it but at least I'd retain some faith in the process.

To take away a right that at least TWO GENERATIONS of women had lived with all their lives is quite another thing and a first for the United States.

This was a political move, disguised as a judicial act, designed from the get-go.

This will not end well. Two generations of women is a lot of collective memory and as more egregious examples of enforcement are uncovered that anger is going to become a boiling rage. It's not just Democratic women voters. A lot of Republican women are also aghast at this.

Already I have witnessed a male elected representative saying that a 12 year old child should be compelled to give birth to a child resulting from a rape by her own father.

This is real Twilight Zone stuff and delivered by the same people that have the audacity to call others sicko, pedo, groomers.

Sheesh!

 

The Fourth/Forteenth Amendment argument has been shot down repeatedly.

 

I'm not so sure of that. Segregation DID end, and most of the nation not in the Deep South was solidly behind that ending.

Most people who are objecting to this ruling say that it MUST NOT stand and that it is going to seriously damage the court's standing as a valid American institution whether it does or not.

 

It seems to be a simple answer: if it is something Republicans want it is an issue if it is then it should be banned.

Why should life that isn’t formed have precedent over sentient life? How do you justify raped women being forced to carry her rapists child to term when you people couldn’t even wear a mask for 5 minutes?

 

republicans wanting to kill a child after it's born against the mother's wish is much more disgusting then a woman choosing to abort

only the right wants to kill babies that are actually born

universal health care should be a right.....

if you're poor....

"Arizona Budget Cuts Put Some Organ Transplants Out of Reach"

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healt...an-transplants-unaffordable/story?id=12177059

 

To those who plead Christian values I hope you dont need reminding of the hundreds of thousands of Jewish and Muslim women.
Or are they so easily subsumed in your "Christian world".
I find it quite frightening that "Christian" political judges decide the moral stance of non Christian people.

 

This is an example of those who protect unwanted unborn children not giving a toss about them when they are forced to be born.
Or the mother.
They are called sluts, deserving of à poor quality of life and not making an effort, preferring to live instead of living off free handouts paid for by the taxpayer.
Ah yes. The very ones who forced her into this position.
Frankly the pro life state should pay for the upkeep of the child no one wanted but was forced to have.

 

I don't even think that elected officials should base their actions on public opinion polls.

I don't have much respect for the public though.

 

Don't get so emotional, you are mischaracterizing what happened. SC

You do know that abortion hasn't been banned, it is still governed by State laws as it always was.