New Travon Martin Pic ~ # 2

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And you statements outside the legalities are entirely specious. That being said even under a layman's definition of stalking this was not one.

And the witness that stated that was where the fight was occurring and the injuries sustained. But do present the evidence, the conclusive beyond a reasonable doubt, they happened other than that. Until you can yes Zimmerman's statement is taken as fact.

"Get away" from the law, so people trying to get away from the law have license to assault those reporting them.............you have a strange view of the law.

He was in his car which is his property and treated as such under the law. And if I walk out to the street I am not on my property. So stop dodging and address what I stated

If I was sitting on my front poarch and you a stranger to the neighborhood walked by I have every right to observe you and even walk out to the street and observe which way you go St the corner and you can't do anything about it under the law.

There was no stalking as you have been told and Martin had no SYG right since Zimmerman was not threatening him with imminent bodily harm or death.

Who would have been charged as an adult had the police arrived earlier to stop the assault on Zimmerman in which he was engaged.

Now it gets down to one thing and one thing only. Prove Zimmerman did not have a reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or death at the moment he pulled the trigger. As Dershowitz stated again the other day it doesn't matter who started it. It doesn't matter if Zimmerman was simply observing Martin or following him. It doesn't matter in Zimmerman pushed Martin. What matters is what was occurring at the time the trigger was pulled. Zimmerman says it was in self-defense...................prove otherwise.

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Had Martin taken permanent residence there? I haven't read that do you have a cite?

 

SO George just shot Trayvon at that point?

The ballistics and forensics are very clear that Trayvon was on top of whomever shot him.

Is that some special Neighborhood Watch technique to detain people... pull them on top of you?

In YOUR world view... how did Trayvon get on top of George to be shot?

 

Dream on. Trayvon was a visitor there. Actually he had been staying with his uncle in ghettoville Miami Gardens because his mom kicked him out.

 

If the police had arrived before GZ shot TM, they would have chewed George out and escorted Trayvon home.

Once George called NEN.. he was interfering in a police investigation.

 

The problem is you have been directly challenged to back up your assertions and post the Florida law on assault and stalking and explain how Zimmerman's actions constituted either that night. Then I will refute it.

Why are you running away from it? Conceding the issue?

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The challenge Margot, none of your assertions carry any weight if you don't back them up.

 

George was too stupid to abide by NW training.

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I have posted the statutes over and over again.. Why don't you knock it off?

 

bwahahahahaha! how silly....

 

So pulling the suspect on top of you is part of Neighborhood Watch Training? How exactly does that work?

 

George was supposed to wait for the police.. NOT pretend he was police.

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George was supposed to wait for the police.. NOT pretend he was police.

 

Slow down here.....

I asked how it came to be that Trayvon ended up on top of George.... your responses don't even remotely match the questions.

How did Trayvon end up on top of George?

I'm not asking "what were the mitigating circumstances leading up to the situation" or "What was George supposed to do" or "what is your opinion of some guy you've never met from Florida?" or "Why do you so hate some guy you've only heard about on the news?"

I'm asking the simple question...

"How did Trayvon Martin end up on top of George ZImmerman in the moments before he was shot?" This is about the physical actions taken by all parties involved in the few seconds before Trayvon was shot.

This shouldn't be difficult for you to answer, unless you're convinced the real answer isn't something you want to admit.

 

Because George followed him, failed to wait for the police.... failed to identify himself and diffuse the situation.

 

Martin was 17 years old. What if he had been 18 years old, do you think it would have been alright for Zimmerman to defend himself them? What about 19? What about 20? If someone is attacking you, do you ask him for ID before defending yourself? You Liberals talk a good game, but if you had been in Zimmerman's place you would have done the same thing.

 

Maybe George should NOT have "profiled" Trayvon for walking home and getting caught in the rain.. One has to be really, really stupid to create such a situation.

 

OK.... let's work through this...

You started to answer.... "Because George followed him, failed to wait for the police.... failed to identify himself and diffuse the situation. ....

Excellent, please finish the sentence....

George followed him... so Trayvon___________________

Fill in the blank....

How did Trayvon end up on top of George?

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And even more stupid to do something resulting in getting shot in such a situation...

What was it that Trayvon did to get George to shoot him?

 

now george is "creating" again...

 

He then told the dispatcher that he would meet the police at the complex mailboxes. He then thought better and asked the dispatcher to have the police call him when they got there. That tells me that he intended to resume his search for Martin. The fact that they ran into each other away from the mailboxes supports that assumption. If Zimmerman had not resumed his search, then Martin would not have attacked him.

 

according to margot, george creates violent punks out of thin air so he can shoot them while they are attacking him. move over david copperfield!

 

I think that TM asked George an adult question.. and when George couldn't answer he probably turned to walk away.. or George reached for his phone/gun and was slugged.

Its altogether likely that George grabbed at TM's hoodie and took an elbow to the nose.

George's stories about what happened are all over the place.

One has to be a solid dumbazz to have created the circumstances of this killing.

There is just no excuse for this unnecessary and avoidable killing...

 

You need to stick to the facts, and not NBC's parody of the facts. Zimmerman did not profile Martin.

 

Where do you come up with this stuff ? I see zero evidence that supports your outlandish claims .

 

George is extremely stupid and lived in a fantasy world of his own making.

 

Speaking of fantasy worlds of their own making!!!!

 

Its not very likely that Trayvon slugged a white man without cause.. He had just turn 17... I think he was terrified of George because George didn't behave like a concerned adult.. He was silent and menacing.

I would have clobbered George.. with the can of iced tea. ... hard enough that he wouldn't have gotten up.

 

I think it comes from reading too many Harlequin Romance novels.