New Travon Martin Pic ~ # 2

Come on.. in a class of 300 George was 3rd from the bottom.

He's a Walter Mitty.

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Actually.. I have NEVER read a Harlequin novel.

 

It is very likely that TM slugged a white man without cause.

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You know nothing about the guy other than what you have read, which seldom paints an accurate picture of a person's true nature. Combined with your overwhelming bias, I'm sure you only see what you want to see about GZ as well.

 

You mean a white man that looked like a thug and had been following him in a car and then on foot? You mean a white man that wouldn't answer a civil question and instead reached for his phone/gun?

I have dealt with black teens all my life.. If you are suspicious of them.. you say "hi" or "good evening".. meaning that you have noticed them.

George is a bloody idiot who was pretending that he had authority........

 

LOL while you can.....

 

What does that mean?

 

You keep mentioning this "question" George was supposed to answer. Trayvon asked if George had a problem and George answered him. He said 'NO'.

 

I too have worked with black teens a lot during my life.....as well as black adults. This is not the 1960's any more. While some might be afraid of the white man, a lot are not. To me, TM's actions do not indicate that he was very scared of GZ. In conjunction with TM's involvement (even if as an onlooker) with "fight clubs", I get the impression that TM considered himself "tough".....or at least wanted other to believe that he was "tough". A "tough guy" would lose face in front of his friends if they knew he allowed some guy to follow him and he did nothing but run like a scared rabbit. Combined with the endorphins that may have been running through him from talking on the phone to his girlfriend and the fact that most teenage boys of 17 think they are invincible.......so, YES, I think it is highly likely that TM slugged a white man without cause. I probably would have when I was his age, not that it would have been a smart thing to do.

 

Trayvon asked.. "why are you following me?"

A man with an IQ above a turnip would have said.. "I am NW .. do you live around here?".

 

From a legal perspective, Zimmerman could be considered the aggressor, which could mean that any unfortunate events (whether it's his own injury or Martins injury) could be his fault (causation).



I never claimed that Martin was a gentleman. But it doesn't matter because getting kicked out of school or growing a marijuana plant doesn't behoove getting shot to death. Even if Zimmerman knew that Martin got kicked out of school, it still wouldn't oblige him to shoot Martin.

As for due diligence, Martin was peacefully minding his own business in his own neighborhood. There's nothing more lawful than that.

Since Zimmerman pursued Martin, I just can't see how you can honestly portray Martin as the aggressor. But don't take it from me, take it from an expert: the investigator who said that Zimmerman was culpable.

George Zimmerman stalked Trayvon Martin. If Trayvon wasn't scared, and black, he probably would have called the cops. For all of those who claim that Martin was the aggressor, or that he wasn't scared, why did Zimmerman claim that Martin ran from him?

Don't let me stop you from looking like a fool by believing that 140-pound Martin managed to hold down a much larger guy (a former bouncer) and manipulate him so easily.

Here are the facts:

• There was no blood found on any pavement near the scene.
• The shell casing was found in the middle of a lawn.
• Martin's body was found in the middle of a lawn.
• Zimmerman had no bruising on the back of his head (just 2 tiny cuts).

Do you still assert that Martin sat on Zimmerman and bashed the back of his skull against pavement? If so, they how do you explain Zimmy's claim that Martin was reaching for his gun (Zimmerman's gun was rear-holstered, so if he was on his back, this wouldn't be possible -- especially considering how fat Zimmy was).

It's a very strange law. It's very new and very un-American. It's also very easy to abuse. Stand Your Ground and Castle laws are going to cause lots of unjust deaths so we had better get used to this increased victimization.

Zimmerman was not in his car when he pursued Martin on foot (demonstrated by his NEN call). Zimmerman was not in his car when he shot Martin. Do you know anything about neighborhood watch? They are supposed to do foot patrol, not car patrol. They also aren't supposed to carry guns. They also aren't supposed to pursue. Zimmerman broke every rule imaginable.

Aside from being a creepy social pariah, yeah, you have the right to watch passers-by. You don't have the right to harass people by following them around, though. And if you did follow them around to the point of harassment or an altercation, you'd be responsible for the consequences.

If George Zimmerman accomplished one thing in his pathetic life, he showed the world that aggressively pursuing people is not a good idea.

Zimmerman was not threatening Martin with imminent bodily harm or death? Sorry, but I'll need proof of this ridiculous assumption.

Prove to me that Martin didn't fear for his life.

Zimmerman has to prove to the jury that he was at risk of death or serious bodily harm. Considering his minor injuries, aggression at the time and many other factors, it won't be easy for him to sway a jury.

Who said anything about permanent. Martin was peacefully and lawfully enjoying his neighborhood while he was being watched and followed by a creep. For all we know, Zimmerman may have watched Martin every day since he move to his new neighborhood.

 

You know that Trayvon's grandfather was a retired Miami cop.. so TM wasn't afraid of law enforcement.. but he was afraid of George...

Rapists, muggers, pickpockets, etc.. all stalk their victims.

Why do you identify with George? He's a creep.

 

Since there is no evidence of George having those special boomerang black kid killing bullets in his gun; the Trayvon walking away theory is BUSTED

George grabbing Trayvon's hoodie doesn't get Trayvon shot or even on top of George... I think that part is BUSTED and we can incluse the elbow to the face theory as that puts George on the ground but Trayvon is still standing.

"George reached for his phone/gun and was slugged...." would certainly be a plausible point where things would begin to go downhill very quickly.

Trayvon has SOME Culpability.... HE MADE THE DECISION to hit George as some point. He made that call of his own volition.

Trayvon had a cell phone to call the police, but made the decision not to, instead he "handled his own business" and was killed as a result of HIS decision.

Trayvon had the ability to walk away from George, but made the decision not to, instead he "handled his own business" and was killed as a result of HIS decision.

Trayvon COULD HAVE decided to stand there with George until the police arrived, but made the decision not to, instead he "handled his own business" and was killed as a result of HIS decision.

Trayvon COULD HAVE walked away and then contacted the police, but made the decision not to, instead he "handled his own business" and was killed as a result of HIS decision.

SHOULD the situation have occurred? Possibly not, we don't yet KNOW the facts, and I don't pretend to have any sort of psychic powers to look back in the first person.

Should Trayvon have been shot and killed? No parent should have to bury their child, but we can't let his age and race foreshadow the choices he obviously made contributing to the tragedy... Regardless the verdict.

 

Fact: Trayvon Martin was living at Twin Lakes with his father.

Fact: Trayvon Martin was a child when George Zimmerman shot him.

 

Hope your family can afford you a nice casket.

 

Odd fantasy .

 

These pinheads don't know that people in gated communities have guests all the time..

 

So what.

If TM was so afraid, why did he not run home? Why did he not start pounding on doors? Why did it take over 2 minutes for TM to run 200 feet instead of the 600 feet that would have put him in a safe apartment with lights and locking doors? Why didn't he call 911?

TM could have easily escaped from GZ and removed himself from any danger....in fact, he had already removed himself, as GZ had lost sight of him.

And people concerned about the safety of their neighborhood will keep tabs of people they find suspicious until the police arrive so that they can show the police where the person went......especially if they are tasked with being a Captain of a community watch.

Where did I identify with George?

 

Not a fantasy at all.. I would not have allowed George to follow me and scare me.. I was followed from a restaurant in Madrid when I was 17.. and I went out the back door because the creep was starring at me thru the window.. I was absolutely prepared to hurt him sufficiently that he wouldn't keep coming.

Your attitude is racist.. George has rights, but Trayvon does not?

What sort of creep hides his second passport and money from the court? Is this your kind of guy?

 

there is no credible evidence that supports trayvon said that.

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i guess you believe that but you have yet to prove your claim....you lose.

 

I guess they hide their guests in the attic so that they won't get shot?

They want to believe that Martin had no business walking around the house where he was staying. Whether he was a guest or living there (I think he was living there), it doesn't matter -- being black doesn't preclude one from walking around their neighborhood.

 

why didn't you stalk and attack the guy for following you just like your thug hero trayvon did.

 

Fact: Trayvon Martin was living at Twin Lakes with his father.

Fact: Trayvon Martin was a child when George Zimmerman shot him.

These are a priori. They are truths no matter whether I 'win' or 'lose' your childish game.

 

"you think he was living there" do you always go around spouting off about things you are clueless about?

 

The number one reason human beings have been able to survive is b/c we humans have a 'profiling gene' AKA a survival instinct. We all instinctively "profile" our fellow humans sometimes thousands of times a day. Why do you think there aren't any school buses full of little kids on 'field trips' going into any inner city violent crime infested hell holes? Those of us with IQ's higher than a slice of Wonder bread know instinctively where not to go. We know when to avoid situations that would be potentially dangerous.
I love how the 'T-Boners' whine about someone being "profiled" but the moment they step outside their parents door the first thing they do is look around to see if there's anyone near them who they think AKA "profile" could be a threat to them.

 

so now you are back to claiming fact where there are none.....gotcha.....you lose again....

 

George missed every opportunity to do the right thing..

George would be killing kids every week in my gated community.. They are students and young adults who use the bus line and walk at all hours of the day and night .. wearing hoodies in the winter and ALWAYS talking on their cellphones.

H*ll I walk at night and in the winter I wear a hoodie.