New York legalizes really late term Abortion and celebrates like it's the Super Bowl

Gosnell was acting outside of the law and preying on women in poverty and illegals. In other words he was working EXACTLY like an illegal abortionist would

Which would YOU rather. A legal framework that can say “This abortion is acceptable because of medical circumstances but this one is not and it will not be performed” or an illegal backyard operation where the abortionist says “go away until you have enough money and then I will do it no matter what damage it will do to you”

Have you READ the descriptions of the filth that Gosnell operated in? Ask yourself what person would risk life and limb undergoing a procedure in a filthy smelly rat and cat infested hole like he operated and more importantly what were they so afraid of that going there was the BETTER option

 

Yeah, based on a technicality: He didn't snip the spinal cords before the baby's head had come out of the birth canal. He thought it was too much trouble to follow the standard procedure of snipping with the head still in there with the body dangling out, and he didn't see a point to it (understandably).

They were never able to prove one way or the other during that trial whether the abortions happened for "health" reasons (probably not) but they didn't need to.

 

Preying on women in poverty isn't illegal to do.

 

What do you mean a medical officer is no longer required? The law itself has a proviso stating that there must be sufficient MEDICAL grounds

 

" A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER [ … ] ACTING WITH IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN, ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT WHEN [ ... ] THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PATIENT'S [ … ] HEALTH. "

Do you see how the details of the law could be construed as a little vague when it comes to putting it into actual practice?

Anything that could remotely plausibly be construed as "protecting the patient's health" (and that includes a whole cornucopia of questionably controversial or dubious things that may not be immediately obvious to the normal person) could be interpreted as being legal under this law.

Not only that but the law makes it clear that:
" EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO BECOMES PREGNANT HAS THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT [ … ] TO HAVE AN ABORTION "
Wouldn't you say that also includes women pregnant after 24 weeks, according to a literal interpretation of the law?

 

Errrr yes it is

Preying on ANYONE is illegal usually

But there is no doubt Gosnell operated outside the law and was paying off those who should have oversighted his operation.

So what would you rather - abortion be legal where it can come under governmental oversight or illegal and create more Gosnells?

 

Citation please

Also please supply who, other than a medical officer, is able to perform an abortion as part of thier scope of practice?

 

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NO, and WHO do YOU want to decide? YOU?!!!!!

 

It says they have to be " LICENSED, CERTIFIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW "

At least it had to be an actual doctor before, who actually had something on the line to lose if his license was revoked.

Pro-choicers used to say "Abortion is a decision between a woman and her doctor". Well now that part isn't even true anymore!

 

He performed abortions against the patients will in at least one case, where a fifteen year old was brought to him by her aunt and even though she did not want the abortion she was strapped down to the table

Again this is why abortions need to remain legal so the Gosnells of this world are not allowed to operate

 

That's a lot more common in many clinics than many people realize.

 

PROVE THAT …




c'mon, just for once show proof of a wild accusation.... Let's see proof that you especially know about all this crime (without reporting it which is a crime)

 

As you are pro-choice person like myself I find it admiral your priorities are protecting the viable fetus. Hopefully anyone practicing outside their scope of practice will be prosecuted.

 

Do you know what "LICENSED, CERTIFIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW " means?


OK, it does not mean that the local mechanic can do one, it doesn't mean the librarian closest to the woman can do abortions, or one's hairdresser...….have ya caught on yet?

The LAW says who is qualified and these people also have to follow the law when performing abortions.....

So NO it is not that asinine "free for all" that some like to paint it as.....JUST ADD COMMON SENSE and you won't be so confused.

It never was true!!!!!


NO, again you're wrong...the abortion decision is the woman's ONLY, the doctor, or anyone else MAY give their opinion but it is NOT the their decision.

 

No. Abortion is allowed without any restrictions during the first and second trimesters. Later than that, the question is how fetal viability and protection of the life and health of the mother are determined. The R.H.A. says that those judgments are to be made according to “the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case”. The law specifies that a “health care practitioner licensed, certified, or authorized” under New York’s medical licensing laws can perform an abortion and make the professional judgments described above. This means that it is possible that licensed nurse practitioners or physician assistants could perform abortions.

 

They are hateful people without morals. I had an abortion before the doctor could hardly see the embryo. I have regretted it my entire life.

At least there was no heart beat and I had only missed one menstrual cycle. If it had been visible on ultrasound and had a heartbeat there would have been no way I would have done it even though I had two difficult prior pregnancies.

 

All that is small potatoes, compared to what happens these days...

 

I mdont think the ruling in Rowe vs. Wade was about the right to long term abortions. It was purely the right to have an abortion. It didn't rule on if the abortion could be performed up to term. So now the Supreme Court should rule on at what age of the fetus the abortion can be performed.

Just my opinion.

 

Oh baloney! If you had an abortion you KNEW you were pregnant...… Didn't you know what you were pregnant with ?

 

OH? What happens "these days" ???

 

23 weeks...…. read a little about the subject and learn.....

 

Bowerbird said: ↑
He performed abortions against the patients will in at least one case,where a fifteen year old was brought to him by her aunt and even though she did not want the abortion she was strapped down to the table

PROVE THAT …




c'mon, just for once show proof of a wild accusation.... Let's see proof that you especially know about all this crime (without reporting it which is a crime)



Answer ONE question?


Ya know it looks like you have no case, no argument, nothing, when you can't answer questions pertaining t your claims...

 

Is there ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL that you can think of?

 

What about for mental health reasons?

Abortion would be available in ALL states for the above scenario, right?

 

Isn't abortion up until birth available in ALL states if the life of the mother is at risk?