New York sues Donald Trump.........

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    .......company and family members over widespread fraud claims, seeks at least $250 million in penalties

    New York Attorney General Letitia James on Wednesday sued former President Donald Trump, the Trump Organization, three of his adult children, and others for allegedly widespread fraud involving false financial statements related to the company.

    The lawsuit filed in Manhattan Supreme Court seeks at least $250 million in damages.

    The complaint says that Trump’s personal financial statements “for the period 2011 through 2021 were fraudulent and misleading in both their composition and presentation.”

    ″ The number of grossly inflated asset values is staggering, affecting most if not all of the real estate holdings in any given year. All told, Mr. Trump, the Trump Organization, and the other Defendants, as part of a repeated pattern and common scheme, derived more than 200 false and misleading valuations of assets included in the 11 Statements covering 2011 through 2021.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/new...-seeks-at-least-250-million-in-penalties.html

    Another legal front opens up for the Trump crime family. He certainly is doing his part to keep attorneys employed. Especially sh$tty ones. Like the one who lied to the DoJ about whether all the classified docs had been returned.

    Looks like Don will be doing more fundraisers..........I mean rallies.
     
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    The lawsuit accuses the former president of profiting from a ‘staggering’ fraud.
    Donald J. Trump, his family business and three of his adult children lied to lenders and insurers for more than a decade, fraudulently overvaluing his assets by billions of dollars in a sprawling scheme, according to a lawsuit filed on Wednesday by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who is seeking to bar the Trumps from ever running a business in the state again.

    Ms. James concluded that Mr. Trump and his family business violated several state criminal laws and “plausibly” broke federal criminal laws as well. Her office, which in this case lacks authority to file criminal charges, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan; it was not immediately clear whether the U.S. attorney would investigate.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/21/nyregion/trump-fraud-lawsuit-ny-james
     
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    Why did the same AG drop the CRIMINAL case then post this one in a CIVIL court?
     
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    It is looking more and more like the CIVIL lawsuit is a staggering lawfare attack on Trump as the details trickles out no wonder why she DROPPED her 3-year Criminal investigation against him because she doesn't have a viable case to prosecute.

    Leftists hate of Trump is destroying them and their sanity.

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    Why do you think the criminal case was dropped?
     
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    The AG didn't drop the criminal case. The DA took over the criminal portion, has made criminal indictments, and is continuing to investigate. The AG has been heading the civil investigation. This isn't new.
     
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    Ok it appears I was confused here, thanks for the clarification.
     
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    just a guess - the suit results in monet . "preponderance of evidence" is all that is required. a criminal case can be appealed forever and requires "beyond a reasonable doubt."
     
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    So, the takeaway here is that ms Letitia couldn't get a criminal complaint through, so she's going to try civil court.. Laughable. Could we all just agree that this is a nuisance complaint and make Latitia write on the chalkboard after school for like a year and disbar the woman for her abuse of office?
     
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    Keep them coming! The more fake witch hunt lawsuits the better! I don't need Trump soiling things for DeSantis. DeSantis already took more action on illegal immigration than Trump has and he isn't even a president!
    I would also like to sue Trump. I will sue him for not thinking of this while he was president.
    In all fairness, I keep bringing up DeSantis and giving him credit, but I believe it was Abbott who first did this. I need to do some research and verify. GENIUS!
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    I think the criminal case was being investigated by the Manhattan DA, not the NY AG.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wouldn't rather have the presumptive nominee of the POT not be involved in so many criminal and civil cases?
     
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    The 220-page lawsuit, filed in New York State Supreme Court, lays out in new and startling detail how, according to Ms. James, Mr. Trump’s annual financial statements were a compendium of lies. The statements, yearly records that include the company’s estimated value of his holdings and debts, wildly inflated the worth of nearly every one of his marquee properties — from Mar-a-Lago in Florida to Trump Tower and 40 Wall Street in Manhattan, according to the lawsuit.
     
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    See post #11.
     
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    There is a difference between the witch hunt against him and individual business cases. If any billionaire was scrutinized to the level of Trump, I bet we could find lots of similar things.
    If Trump somehow did something illegal with his businesses he should have to answer for it. That's WORLDS APART from fake Russian collusion hoax. I'm OK with the law being applied the way it was meant to be, and not as a tool for partisan power. Not the answer you wanted huh? You forget that we are not a HIVE MIND on the right. Some other right winger will read what I wrote and completely disagree but you will not find ONE SINGLE LEFT WINGER that disagrees with you, because thats how a hive works.
     
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    I think the scrutiny is showing that Trump has never been a billionaire anywhere but in his own mind.
     
  17. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the risk of being redundant, the Russian investigation was obviously not a hoax. When are you going to learn that is a meme with no basis in truth?

    Amazing that you think billionaires cheat to the extent Trump has.............without evidence.
     
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    Yup, very typical!
    I leaned a little to your side and tried to answer a question realistically and instead you jump all over the part you don't agree with me on. This is why the 2 sides won't get along. One is flexible and one is rigid.
    That will be my last attempt at ever playing nice. thanks for putting me in check and back to reality that there can never be a TRUCE
     
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  19. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have copied and pasted my thread on the Russia investigation numerous times. Hopefully the mods permit me to do it again.

    It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

    Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
    Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected.
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    Russian fake accounts showed posts to 126 million Facebook users
    Executives from Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be appearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on Tuesday.
    www.usatoday.com

    Donnie J entered in to a conspiracy with Russians to obtain dirt on Hillary he was told was in the possession of the Russian government. Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

    Those two incidents alone prove a conspiracy.

    There's this.. FBI documents reveal communication between Stone, Assange

    Which coincides with this...https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html

    Not to mention this...............Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
    and this.......A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?
    and this in regard to the evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation. Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
    and this......

    Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would have been indicted if he were not president

    President Donald Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation if he did not hold the nation's highest office, nearly 700 former federal prosecutors argued in an open letter published on Medium on Monday.

    The ex-prosecutors — who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations dating back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower — said Attorney General William Barr's decision not to charge Trump with obstruction "runs counter to logic and our experience."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ay-trump-would-have-been-indicted-if-n1002436

    All of which creates, for Trumpleton's, the same level of cognitive dissonance Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has created. Shattering the duplicitous narrative right wing media has pushed from the beginning about the events surrounding 1/6.

    It's why Trumpleton's will employ every tool for denial, deflection, and of course gratuitous insults (their stock and trade) in response to this thread.
     
  20. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I kinda like the fact that dear old dad has sucked the kids in to his criminal enterprise and now they may pay the price.
     
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    Please stop shoving Russia down my throat! you've been trying for years. It isn't working!
    Now, if you want to talk about the shady business dealings of billionaires, this is something I can do with no partisan angle.
    On a side note I am the one that brought up Russia so I guess that puts it on me, but I did partially agree with you and that wasn't enough for you. It shows that the left doesn't just want us to see things 100% their way, they want to control our very thoughts too.
    Sad!
    Here i was thinking we made some tiny progress.
    Wishful thinking on my part eh?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, as I have learned over the years, it certainly is not possible for me to get any Trump supporter to accept the truth. All I can do is show it to them.
     
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    James has filed a criminal referral with federal prosecutors and the IRS.
     
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    The NY AG never had a criminal case, (she can only do civil) it was the Manhattan DA, and Bragg didn't actually drop it, he just said it's "ongoing', Bragg just wants more evidence, as if plenty isn't enough, but he's intimidated by the specter of prosecuting a former president. But, two of his top prosecutors resigned in protest because they felt there was enough evidence to indict and he is still slow walking the thing.
     

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